They are both self-cast procs, basically. Whenever the proc lands, the target debuffs itself. Since both are considered to be coming from the same source, the target, whichever is the greater will stick for its duration.
You won't be able to get a 22.5% debuff from both. However, you will be able to get a 20% debuff even if there's already a 2.5% debuff.
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Okay good, so the 2.5% from the incarnate can keep firing (well 75% chance with each attack but you know what i mean), then sometimes it will have the random 20% from the proc added on (assuming it fires off.) That should deal some heavy damage |
Originally Posted by Starcloud
They are both self-cast procs, basically. Whenever the proc lands, the target debuffs itself. Since both are considered to be coming from the same source, the target, whichever is the greater will stick for its duration.
You won't be able to get a 22.5% debuff from both. However, you will be able to get a 20% debuff even if there's already a 2.5% debuff. |
I'm probably going with the chance for DoT over the -res on my Peacebringer. He's not far enough along to have it slotted yet, however: for some reason, he's been on a lot more BAFs and I had him work on getting Judgement first. So I can't really say how good or great that is. But I figure a damage boost is the nicest thing for him, then the -res. Hearing all this confirms it in my mind more as well, since I have plenty of Achilles slotted.
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I would go with that, but I have never really been able to stand toe-to-toe with a really strong/big opponent much. The other day my blaster tanked jurassic for a little bit for sh*s and giggles, i lasted about 2-3 mins. So i figured with a PB's heals, softcapped resistances and a -res heavy build it would really help in the department
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Originally Posted by Grey Pilgrim
I'm probably going with the chance for DoT over the -res on my Peacebringer. He's not far enough along to have it slotted yet, however: for some reason, he's been on a lot more BAFs and I had him work on getting Judgement first. So I can't really say how good or great that is. But I figure a damage boost is the nicest thing for him, then the -res. Hearing all this confirms it in my mind more as well, since I have plenty of Achilles slotted.
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This isn't correct. Achilles won't stack with itself, but it can take effect at the same as other -res procs. It stacks with fury of the gladiator -res, as an example. If it for some reason did not stack with reactive, it would most certainly be a bug.
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Originally Posted by Starcloud
They are both self-cast procs, basically. Whenever the proc lands, the target debuffs itself. Since both are considered to be coming from the same source, the target, whichever is the greater will stick for its duration.
You won't be able to get a 22.5% debuff from both. However, you will be able to get a 20% debuff even if there's already a 2.5% debuff. |
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Even better, then.
Reactive also stacks with itself. So if you have some quick attacks, you can push it up a little higher.
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That's what i was thinking(: |
Originally Posted by all_hell
Reactive also stacks with itself. So if you have some quick attacks, you can push it up a little higher.
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I was considering an all human build with perma-hasten, lots of -resist debuffs, and softcapped smashing/lethal/energy/neg resistance so i could spam big guys quickly and survive(:
This will help a lot!
Basicly reactives stacks up to 4 times (or its what everyone says anyway) on a target, be it from you or another player so if two player rquipped with reactive attacking to same target it won't get 8 stacks just 4. The game does not check who put the debuff on target but check what power is debuff comes from. If power is stackable than it stacks debuff's to a certain number like reactive as far as I know neither achielle not gladiator is stackable so with both proc+reactive you can put on a target at the same time %20 for achielle+%20 for gladiator+%10 (4*%2.5) reactive -res so in the best situation (pure luck with two procs but not impossible) you put %50 -res to one target
One thing I heard though maximum reactive stack is actually 6 but because of %25 to %75 hit chance and duration of reactive (10 sec iirc) noone see more than 4 stacks at one time.
So as most PB builders know an Achilles' Heel proc is always a good thing to have for the -Resistance. My issue is that upon rebuilding my PB with incarnates I picked reactive interface. Now will the effects of this proc not really matter with the 75% chance for -res debuff, or will it simply stack and increase my odds of getting more -res?
I'm only asking because to my understanding two procs of the same type, being chance of ___ damage and such, may override each other resulting in only one proc going off.
If slotted this way will the proc ( -20%res) and the interface (-2.5%res) have a chance to combine and allow one attack to do -22.5% resistance?