Kinetic Melee: Archetype/Secondary Suggestions
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Posted on: 2011-07-20 15:38 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
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Originally Posted by Lithium_NA
I've been out of the game for a while and, needless to say, a lot has changed. I've poked around a bit and know I want to roll a new Praetorian character using Kinetic Melee but could really use some advice and recommendations as far as archetype and secondary power set selection go.
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Kin/Nin Shield or Fire Aura Scrapper
Kin/EA Brute will give you stealth in Energy Cloak, although you may consider the EA toggles too flashy (I believe you can color them down so they're not as noticeable though). EA has its weak points but is getting a buff next issue (Conserve Power replaced with Energize, one of the toggles is getting a +Recharge aura similar to Invincibility's +Def, Energy Drain adds +Def along with its +End), as well as being proliferated to Scrappers if you prefer that archetype. (But you'll have to wait a few months for that...) As far as concept goes, Kin/EA is a nice fit thematically, and I've been enjoying mine up to level 26 (but he's shelved until the buff).
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I've only just started my KM/Inv Scrapper (lv 10 currently), but so far I'm loving it. Invulnerability isn't too flashy and ends up with some really solid Resists all around. It could also fit the Kinetic theme too, depending how you explain it.
I'm intriqued by the possibilities PS+FE+Fury and what that does to Burn, Burst, and CS. 
Bearing in mind the differences in brute/scrapper FE and Burn.
But I'm too game-lazy to do it. 
Someone brought up an interesting q in another thread about KM:
Given KM is generally considered better on a scapper, and /FA better on a brute - which one to roll?
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Ditto this - rolled one May 1st, hit 50 on Monday the 17 of July - absolute blast if you aren't completely worried about PvP.
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Originally Posted by Cheetatron
Kin/Nin stalker
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Deamus the Fallen - 50 DM/EA Brute - Lib
Dragos Bahtiam - 50 Fire/Ice Blaster - Lib
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Formally Dragos_Bahtiam - Abbreviate to DSL - Warning, may contain sarcasm
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Originally Posted by Shubbie
Im very good at taking a problem and making it worse.
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KM/Fire scrapper is very deadly. I'd also recommend waiting till I21 then make a KM/EA scrapper since the energy aura update is going to be good.
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For PvP KM/Regen Stalker would be a good one I guess, I'm no expert in Pvp, this is just what I read. Since I have an Elec/Reg, my next Stalker project is a KM/EA.
Since KM works better on Scrappers than Brutes you can't go wrong with any secondary (well for pvp the defensive ones are not that good nowadays). For Pve, KM/SD and KM/EA would be my choices. I don't like WP and I find /FA and /ELA better on Brutes so I'd go with SD for extra damage or the upcoming EA if you can wait.
EDIT: KM/Dark looks good too, I didn't think about that because I love /DA so much I have a lot of Dark Armor toons so /DA is 'blocked' for me in my brain when I think about rolling a new melee toon.
I like KM/DA on a Stalker. You get the 100% critical on Burst from Hide, the auto-recharge on Build Up, and can stack stuns to mez bosses. Good stuff.
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I've leveled a KM/FA scrapper when it came out, expecting a damage powerhouse based on the numbers, and was extremely disappointed with its actual performance ingame. Damage is excellent... If you fight a static target or have someone else to hold things in place for you. Otherwise, everything runs for the hills every single time you drop a Burn patch or kill an enemy, which hurts much more than on a normal scrapper as you need things in melee consistently to optimize PS stacking.| Given KM is generally considered better on a scapper, and /FA better on a brute - which one to roll? |
I haven't tried a KM/FA brute. However, I just recently went from a KM/SR scrapper with Confront to a KM/SR brute, and despite the ~40 DPS hit on paper I find the character to perform better on every metric, including damage, thanks to stuff not running away. Considering SR scrappers don't have Burn or Blazing Aura and hence don't cause nearly as much running as FA scrappers...
I think if you aim to be a ST specialist and pick Confront, the scrapper can be more efficient. A properly slotted Confront won't need to be used more than every ~20-25s even against a +4, once you're levelshifted, so it's not a very significant damage loss, and the difference in damage output compared to the brute is tremendous.
If you want AOEs, I'd go brute, as even doing +50% (total) damage breaks down if you hit half of the targets.
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My 2 most successful Kinetic Melee characters were my KM/DA scrap and my KM/EA Stalker. Really enjoy them both, and with the /EA buff coming the stalker will probably get even better.
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Originally Posted by Lithium_NA
I've been out of the game for a while and, needless to say, a lot has changed. I've poked around a bit and know I want to roll a new Praetorian character using Kinetic Melee but could really use some advice and recommendations as far as archetype and secondary power set selection go.
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Active 50s:
Zero Defex: DP/MM//Mace Blaster
Mutant X-7: Fire/MM//Mace Blaster
Running my Kin/EA gloriously
Come on I21!!!
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Sure, the devs are supposed to listen to their customers, mister business 101 out there. And if I decide to start suggesting that the devs change the game from being about superheroes and supervillains to being about clowns that is my right as well, and technically Paragon Studios is supposed to pay attention to me. But I hope strongly that they assume a meth-head somehow managed to hack into my forum account and make paper airplanes out of my posts, because I hope they recognize stupid when they see it. I assume they will recognize futile just as accurately.
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My KM/SD scrapper hits like a busload of concrete-filled nuns and is durable as hell. Can't recommend KM/SD enough.
Similarly just returned thanks to the Steam sale. This topic is exactly what I was looking for.
Have 4 melee 50s (2 scrap, brute, tank), but still saw Kinetic Melee and just have to roll one. 50s were Regen, WP, Fire, Elec... so need something different. Have SR in the 30s. So yeah, thinking Dark or Shield.
Any more preferences between dark/shield between scrap/brute? Would dark's death shroud really help fury as a brute? Or is shield better either way?
I've been out of the game for a while and, needless to say, a lot has changed. I've poked around a bit and know I want to roll a new Praetorian character using Kinetic Melee but could really use some advice and recommendations as far as archetype and secondary power set selection go.
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