Well this is looking like the Stalker forums lol where nobody answers things. I made an Elec/Thorns, I hope the DoT doesn't mess with Static Field much.
On the Thorny side, I had a plant/thorns at 35 but I deleted her (disappointed with the damage outside domination but now it's good enough for me) - I like Impale, and comparing the two, Thorn Barrage seems lackluster, only .4 sec less cast time, half the range, more end/rech and only 10 points of damage more unenhanced @ 50. Is it skippable?
I personally preferred Elec/Ice/Fire. The -rech and -speed in Chilling Embrace combines very nicely with Static Field and Conductive Aura and the additional endurance/recovery from the primary offsets the end guzzling qualities of the secondary quite well.
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Both /fire and /ice ought to be nice. /thorny should be fine as well.
I like the animation of thorn barrage but it should be skippable. Those attacks with half the range are a pain if you play at range, and I can understand someone skipping it if they have enough recharge to fill out their chains some other way. I like the attack though.
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I have an earth/thorn that I don't like the thorn half of very much at all.
/fire is great fun in melee. but I do get sad that we don't have fire sword circle.
/Ice is my favorite secondary so far, but I keep assuming that I'll get bored of it eventually. Then, it keeps not hapenning. hehe.
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_Ail_ I didn't go Ice because I want good AoE before epics/patrons. Thorns has two good AoEs - fling thorns (more damage than tremor/fault and fast rech, the cone is 90 degress so you can jump up and hit everyone with it). Since I'm keeping Impale I feel Thorn Barrage seems skippable, I agree the animation is nice, saw it in the char creator. It's the only power I never had because I deleted a plant/thorns at 35 when dominators sucked for damage out of domination. But I do like thorns a lot.
I didn't go /fire because I don't find it that great in melee (and I'm elec/ which likes melee), instead I made an earth/fire and I already regret taking incinerate because even at level 20 the toon plays so well at range (earth control doesn't need to get close) that I don't bother going in just to use an attack that does a bit more damage than fire blast. In fact when I use Incin I end up overkilling mobs because of its DoT.
/ice looks interesting but must be hell on end, ISC has a huge recharge and end cost, guess it's because of the radius - also ice blast animates fast do the end must be high overall, good pairing for elec I guess. Frost Breath is alright, so 2 AoEs that are better than earth's. But all the attacks are all nice or good, I'll have a hard time making one. Perhaps a Plant/Ice since I'm set on both my new doms (Elec/Thorns and Earth/Fire).
Thanks for the feedback!
Did you think about primaries?
I farm tickets on my Plant/Earth/Mace dom. I do not have any addtional aoe from the epic sets.
Most of my AoE damage comes from plant and I burn through ticket farms in no itme.
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Oh in this case I didn't because I took a 1.5 year hiatus, got GR like 10 days ago so I never played Elec Control. So I made a Elec/Thorns.|
Originally Posted by Test_Rat
Did you think about primaries?
I farm tickets on my Plant/Earth/Mace dom. I do not have any addtional aoe from the epic sets. Most of my AoE damage comes from plant and I burn through ticket farms in no itme. |
That said... Since I deleted a Plant/Thorns at 35 (I was very disappointed with Fly Trap and Thorns, but that was before the dom changes, I hated thorns damage back then) I'm thinking about a Plant/Ice, sounds like a good combo to me, never tried Ice, despite an ice/psi permadom I don't have anything 'icey' btw so I think it's time.
I feel /Earth Assault has great potential for a melee dom, but I know all the powers already (have Fissure on my Fire/Kin, and a 40 Stone/Elec Brute). And the numbers on the AoEs... idk, I only like Tremor on my Broot when she has Fury and uses BU before, and in the pre-DO era I was finding Tremor on my deleted elec/earth lackluster too, I prefer Fling Thorns and Thorn Burst than Earth's Aoes.
For tickets I self-pl'ed a ss/fa in one day to 45 and he's already doing well with the ambushes and FS+Burn+Rage (of course not that fast since he's not fully ioed and not 50, and no epic AoE yet because I'm yet to complete the epic arc so I got fire for now instead). BTW what's your 'sweet spot' for rolling? Everyone tells one thing... Bronze 15-19, Silver 25-29, Silver 30-34, I don't think there's a 100% consensus...
I'd be interested to hear how you find Elec/Thorns, specifically in regards to whether the DoT waking things up causes any significant problems or not. It's a combination I kind of considered, but that part concerned me.
Sure, I'll post it here, I'm yet to get the sleep patch because I'm finishing IO'ing a 2-day self-PL'ed SS/FA lol. That's why I asked Test Rat about rolls, I never know what to roll.
But it may be problematic since all the powers do DoT, including the two AoEs. But if I get there and don't like it, I can make an Elec/Ice and ditch the Plant/Ice idea. Ice seems to complement Elec well since Elec has good end recovery (Static Field and C. Aura) and although I never played /ice, EVERYBODY says it's crazy high on endurance due to fast animations and ISC's high cost.
Well after everything is counted together and that includes Epics... my best Damage dealer is
Fire/Psi/Fire.. Pets.. Fireball, PsiShockwave, Rain of Fire, Hot Feet and Psychic Scream is a lot of AoE...
he has a few single target attacks in just Psi Dart, Mind Probe and Subdue, You could add in TK Thrust for for Single Target as well.. but I couldnt fit it in my build...
Earth/Fire is a great combo and you will love it..
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ISC has the same end usage as most of the PBAoEs Doms get. It's only slightly higher in end/recharge/damage than Whirling Hands, and is almost identical to Psychic Shockwave. The only difference between the two is that PS gets an extra point of damage. That was done to mollify people who were upset about the nerfing of the power due to the Dom revamp.|
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although I never played /ice, EVERYBODY says it's crazy high on endurance due to fast animations and ISC's high cost.
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During the Dom revamp most of the PBAoEs were standardized in area and in most other ways. ISC is no better or worse than other PBAoEs.
Icy Assault does tend to use a bit more end than other sets just by virtue of it's generally fast animations (for single-target attacks. AoEs are on par or below other sets). I found the end burn manageable, though barely, before IOs, so I don't think you should feel like you need to pair /Icy with Elec/ for the extra end to run it unless you don't want to use IOs or have a severely constrained budget.
The first Dom I really fell in love with was a Plant/Ice. That was a long time ago on my old server. When I wanted to roll a Plant Dom on my current server I went with Plant/Fire instead. There are times I wish I'd copied my old dom instead. Icy Assault doesn't do as much damage, but for me it's just more fun somehow.
So I made an Elec/Earth and I'm very unimpressed with Tremor and I don't like Fissure's numbers, they both do less damage than Thorn Burst and even Fling Thorns. Since he's only level 6 I'm thinking about rerolling him into a good ST/AoE damage toon, I thought /Earth would have that but Mud Pots also doesn't seem to hot, less damage than Hot Feet and small radius (even though this dom would be very melee focused).
So, Elec/what? I guess melee is preferred with Elec because of the Aura and sleep patch. I'm considering Thorns, any other suggestions? Would thorns' DoT interfere too much with Elec's sleep patch?
Oh btw, please no psi, I played this set so much I'm burned out on it, I know it's beastly and I'd have picked it and wouldn't even ask you guys if I hadn't played it to death
Thanks!