New button in character editor - Swap Colors

A fairly simple idea: have a button that swaps the primary and secondary colors of the currently selected costume piece/power theme. If your primary is Black and your secondary is White, hit the button and in one click the primary is White and the secondary is Black.

I often find myself switching primary and secondary colors manually, so this would be a handy button I'd use a lot.

Been suggested numerous times before.

Still good idea.

I'd use it quite often myself as well.

Yep this one's been suggested for years. And in the grand scheme of things it would be very trivial from a programming point of view - we're not talking about something massive like Power Customization here, just a button that swaps two color values in a GUI. Why it hasn't happended yet is semi-amazing to me.

I would use this myself on a constant basis.

I would use it often as well!

/Signed. Here's hoping the CC is getting overhauled at some point Soon™ going on threads with Dev comments/hints in.

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I'd love it if we had a button like this. When I'm designing a costume and don't have a concrete idea of what it should be yet, I'll oftentimes want to swap colours on costume items to see if I can't balance the colour scheme a little better. Right now, it's a cumbersome, unwieldy process. If it were just a simple button, then costume design would be that much easier.

Furthermore, when you use linked colours, you always get the same primary colour first on every costume piece you use, even if certain pieces match your costume better with swapped colours. This option should, in theory at least, be able to swap primary and secondary colours even with "Linked Colours" enabled.

I'm all for this.

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Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

I must be missing something.

I do this all the time. Hit the "Copy Current Colors Across the Entire Body" button; change the first color to the second, and the second to the first. It takes all of three seconds, and a total of three clicks.

I'm not opposed to such a button as suggested, but I don't understand the talk about this being a cumbersome process. Am I missing something?

Even if you've used the "link colors" sometimes individual portions don't look "quite the way you want them to".

I'll play with the colors till I like the combination. (For this explanation I'll use Lothic's example, of Red/Blue.) Then I'll turn off "linked Colors". From there, I'll look at various subsets of the costume creator: Gloves, Chest Pieces, Boots, Belts etc. and try and decide if Blue/Red works better for the individual pieces, or Red/Blue. Switching back and forth the colors for many of the different subset pieces until I'm happy.

THIS is were a "Swap Colors" button would be handy. The portion were I'm going through varying sub menu items on the costume creator. Hope that helps make it clearer.

(Hmm... My description maybe redundant after re-reading the previous posts, oops. )

I'm sure the actual coding of the button's functional changes to the character's data isn't difficult at all. Given a costume file, I can write script to do that. However, there's something about actually altering the interface itself that seems to scare the developers. For instance, we know that the tech to customize pool and epic powers already exists - it's the same tech that lets us edit a custom FX script that the game then loads for a power. Hell, almost all Epic powers already have customization options since they're copies of powers which are already customizable.

However, what's been stopping them is that they lack the UI to handle that, or so BABs used to say. Powersets are easy, in that you just give the player all of the powers he COULD ever have, regardless of whether he'll take them all, since he'll probably end up having most of them. With pools and epics, you really should only ever let the player customize the pools he's taken, not every single pool and epic in the game, and UI can't do that at the moment. Or so they say. Even when customization of Incarnate powers was added, it still just lumped them all in the editor, even if you didn't actually have three quarters of the powers you could edit.

Sadly, I seriously do think that UI work puts a damper on a LOT of costume editor improvements.

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This would also be very welcome in the power-color-customization screen of the CC.

Every time I've set two colors across a power set I find that two or three of them look much better with the primary/secondary colors reversed, and I have to manually switch the colors on each and every power a couple of times to figure out which ones to make primary-secondary and which to make secondary-primary.