Additional costume slots, please?


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I'm reading this and going "Oh, god, not that." Since, to me, that's one step closer to the F2P trash heap. (And irritating in the same way that the Incarnate "Hey, let's add Incarnate Pizza, and Incarnate this, and incarnate that, and nothing else can use it!" salvage nonsense is in-game.)
The only reason I remembered the NCcoins are because of the discussions a few years ago when people were asking if they were being added to this game because our EULA specifically mentioned them.


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... then you wouldn't be the target audience for this, would you. You're arguing that people who buy pickup trucks should have to go through extra licensing and fees, then going "but I drive nothing but compacts." Why are you arguing to make something more tedious/expensive that you wouldn't use anyway?
But I would use it occasionally if it wasn't account wide. I just don't want to pay for a case of soda when all I want is one. Of course after seeing your explanation about the CC processing fees I understand why the prices are higher.


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Eh?

CHARACTER slots are, sure. Costume slots? I don't recall most other games (which tend to be *gear based*) offering costume slots. More like "if you have a decorative item or want a different look, use up some of your (universal) storage. For instance, Aion - you can purchase items and "combine" them with your armor that give a different look, or wear them separately - but there's no "costume slot." Keeping it takes up storage. Or, games will have potions that act like our halloween costume temp powers and just replace your model - but that's nothing like a "costume slot." The only other one I can think of that had anything close to the same was APC, which gave far *more* slots than we have.
I have LTS's to two MMO's that sell costume slots and they were included in their stores as soon as possible, if not from day one. One is more gear based than the other.

Now they sell them accout wide but and I was thinking individually could be a lot cheaper, but that brings us back to the CC transaction fee which I wasn't aware had such a huge impact.


 

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I'm against selling more costume slots. Booster packs are one thing, since they usually have at least one fun temp power. Besides, I'd prefer CoH not move over to the F2P format, and nickle-and-diming every new feature of the game isn't going to avoid that scenario.

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I just don't want to pay for a case of soda when all I want is one.
Considering the amount of altitist sufferers I've seen. I doubt many people want to be charged for individuals when the case would better suit them.

Besides, with as much as they'd need to charge in order to make money, it only makes sense to do account wide purchases. Charging individually would be way too much like a F2P format.

And any kind of point purchase system is a scam. I consider them to be deceptive at best.


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There's at least one other superhero MMO out there that allows its players to both save/load costumes AND buy additional costume slots as well. There's no fundamental reason why this game couldn't be improved to offer BOTH features as well.



As a player of this game I would obviously love a scheme that would let me get more costumes slots for my characters that would not cost me any additional money. That's pretty much a no-brainer.

But I've personally wanted extra costume slots for some of my characters for so long that paying a bit of real money for them would not bother me in the least. From the point of view of "how much money I already pay for this game versus the amount of time I've played it over the last seven years" an extra charge for some costume slots would be almost insignificant to me.

So would I prefer a version of it like Memphis_Bill or Techbot Alpha suggested? Sure.
But if it came down to having it Forbin_Project's way or not at all I'd very easily go with Forbin_Project's idea.
I've wanted them for a long time too, but I obviously would still prefer to not pay for them. If they did add them for purchase, it would really depend on how they implemented it (ie. how many do you get? how much will they cost? would it be account wide, per server, or per character?).


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I've wanted them for a long time too, but I obviously would still prefer to not pay for them. If they did add them for purchase, it would really depend on how they implemented it (ie. how many do you get? how much will they cost? would it be account wide, per server, or per character?).
Don't forget if they are per character and you can buy more than one at a time will we be able to assign them individually to characters as we see fit.


 

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Don't forget if they are per character and you can buy more than one at a time will we be able to assign them individually to characters as we see fit.
but why not let them be an account wide purchase on all characters?
Plus, all purchases thus far have been account wide? Why make this one different. Do you simply not like the idea of having extra costume slots that are not being used?


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but why not let them be an account wide purchase on all characters?
Plus, all purchases thus far have been account wide? Why make this one different. Do you simply not like the idea of having extra costume slots that are not being used?
His comment was an addition to my list of questions about how they could (speculating of course) implement costume slots and the varying issues. I don't think it was specifically to say "It should be done this way", it was simply something I had not thought of.


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Don't forget if they are per character and you can buy more than one at a time will we be able to assign them individually to characters as we see fit.
Side note. Lets say they were implemented like that, they could add them like they currently do with purchased character slots, where you have to claim them on whatever server you want them on, and then after that perhaps they would have you select which character you want the costume slot on, on that specific server.


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y'know what sounds perfect to me for buying character slots? Possibly accountwide? Empyrean Michael (Issue 20(.5): Incarnates Ascend Contact).

Maybe have one global option that maxes at 3(for a total of 8 non-EAT costumes for every character on the account), then 2 more that are character specific only unlockable for a higher amount of empyreans for your current (or a cert for another) level 50, giving a 50 with the max certificates redeemed and personal ones unlocked 10 costume slots.

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y'know what sounds perfect to me for buying character slots? Possibly accountwide? Empyrean Michael (Issue 20(.5): Incarnates Ascend Contact).

Maybe have one global option that maxes at 3(for a total of 8 non-EAT costumes for every character on the account), then 2 more that are character specific only unlockable for a higher amount of empyreans for your current (or a cert for another) level 50, giving a 50 with the max certificates redeemed and personal ones unlocked 10 costume slots.

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I'm opposed to anything that requires me to get empyreans to unlock it outside of the incarnate system.


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I'm opposed to anything that requires me to get empyreans to unlock it outside of the incarnate system.
/agreed.

Toss one in per costume pack. Let me buy a bunch of them at once. I'd go for *maybe* one in the Incarnate system given that they're giving armor for that, but the others should be much more easily available, much earlier.


 

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/agreed.

Toss one in per costume pack. Let me buy a bunch of them at once. I'd go for *maybe* one in the Incarnate system given that they're giving armor for that, but the others should be much more easily available, much earlier.
As another idea for getting "costume slots via non-microtransaction methods" they could easily be retrofitted as Vet awards. Costume slots would make perfect Vet awards because they would provide an extra benefit without being overpowering or "unfair" to anyone. We already get an extra character slot for every 12 months of Vet status. They could follow that precedent by giving us an extra account-wide costume slot for our characters every 12 months as well.

If costume slots (like character slots) were obtainable as both microtrasactions AND Vet awards then everyone would be happy. You could either buy them now or get them for no additional charge as Vet awards.


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His comment was an addition to my list of questions about how they could (speculating of course) implement costume slots and the varying issues. I don't think it was specifically to say "It should be done this way", it was simply something I had not thought of.
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Side note. Lets say they were implemented like that, they could add them like they currently do with purchased character slots, where you have to claim them on whatever server you want them on, and then after that perhaps they would have you select which character you want the costume slot on, on that specific server.
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I'm opposed to anything that requires me to get empyreans to unlock it outside of the incarnate system.
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/agreed.

Toss one in per costume pack. Let me buy a bunch of them at once. I'd go for *maybe* one in the Incarnate system given that they're giving armor for that, but the others should be much more easily available, much earlier.
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As another idea for getting "costume slots via non-microtransaction methods" they could easily be retrofitted as Vet awards. Costume slots would make perfect Vet awards because they would provide an extra benefit without being overpowering or "unfair" to anyone. We already get an extra character slot for every 12 months of Vet status. They could follow that precedent by giving us an extra account-wide costume slot for our characters every 12 months as well.

If costume slots (like character slots) were obtainable as both microtrasactions AND Vet awards then everyone would be happy. You could either buy them now or get them for no additional charge as Vet awards.
/all of the above


 

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Originally Posted by Aggelakis View Post
I've also wondered this, but I have never, ever, EVER wondered why they don't sell costume slots PER CHARACTER. I would certainly never buy costume slots PER CHARACTER. I would certainly buy costume slots that opened account-wide, but there's no way in heck I'm buying something with real money, something COSMETIC, that only affects ONE CHARACTER.
I'd probably buy character-based costumes before I'd buy account-based, since I have one character who could really use about 10 more slots and all the others are okay with 5 or even out of ideas by the second costume.




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y'know what sounds perfect to me for buying character slots? Possibly accountwide? Empyrean Michael (Issue 20(.5): Incarnates Ascend Contact).

Feedback?
If by 'perfect' you mean 'This idea can go dig itself a deep hole and then set itself on fire so it dies alone and out of sight where it deserves to be' then yes.

Also, NO.


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