Blaster Build Help


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Hey Guys,

I'm a bit new to City of Heroes, I have a level 33 Ice/Energy Blaster, Magic origin.

I was looking for a bit of advice, Ive been playing with Mids' Hero Designer.

Not sure if I'm doing it right =P


 

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Well, you haven't really given us much to work with...

Do you know how Single-Origin vs. Hamidon-Origin vs. Invention-Origin Enhancements work? Are you looking for a cheap build/expensive build? Would you like the build to cap defense/recharge/damage? How do you like to play your blaster? Are you a ranged lockdown artist with your Ice blasts? Do you get up close with your Energy punches?

Knowing these sort of things will make any suggestions we give you not be as likely to make you hate your blaster, seeing as how we'd be adapting it to your play style and not giving you a basic template build which might not be as enjoyable.

My best advice, honestly, would be to go and PLAY your Blaster. Learn what works best for you, learn what enemies will give you fits and which ones you can steamroll, and team with people to get some experience with other buffing/debuffing/control sets and how they effect you as a "glass cannon". Also, you're about to wade into the level range where Blasters drop off in terms of damage vs. the enemies' increasing HP and newly-gained mezzing abilities... this is where a lot of new Blasters get discouraged. Don't give up hope! I love my Blasters and they're well worth the journey.


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You're probably not doing it right, but keep experimenting and post your build for critique.

A really basic way to go about making a build is to first make sure all your basics are covered before worrying about set bonuses. A step by step process would look like this:

1. Pick the right powers at the right time. I believe the Blaster guides have info on all the secondaries and primaries available as well as power pools, listing which are the better powers to pick and when.

2. Make sure you can hit your targets. In Mids, you can set your base chance to hit to simulate attacking +3's which will be the maximum con after you get a rare alpha. To do this, go to Options -> Exemping and Base Values -> set the value in the "Base ToHit" box to 45. Make sure all of your attacks are at least 95% accuracy through accuracy enhancements and set bonuses. Note: the Kismet defense set has a +6% ToHit IO in it, which is well worth the cost and will get you to your accuracy goals much more easily.

3. Make sure you don't run out of endurance easily. As a damage dealer, you do not want to find yourself in a position you can't attack. This is primarily achieved by slotting endurance reduction enhancements in your attacks and toggle powers, and endurance modification enhancements in powers like Stamina. Other things you can do is slot the +recovery IO's from the Performance Shifter EndMod set(in Stamina), Miracle Heal set(in Health), and Numina's Convalescence Heal set(in Health). Those can take a while to obtain, however.

4. Make sure you have enough damage in your attacks. You want to be around the 90% damage enhancement mark for your attacks. To do this you must slot damage enhancements in your attacks.

5. Get recharge in your best Single Target attacks, Area of Effect attacks, and self damage buffs. Your best attacks(especially AoE attacks) need to be up more often, which will make you a more efficient blaster. To get more killing power you must slot recharge into them. Also, your self damage buffs are very important, and you should strive to have around 90% recharge in them. To do this you must slot recharge enhancements and go for global recharge bonuses...

6. Get global recharge bonuses. This is where things get tricky, as IO sets come into play. Invention Origin enhancements have sets which can boost your global values for many things, ranging from extra defense and recovery to extra damage and recharge. The first thing you need to worry about is recharge, so try to get as many of those bonuses in first. Aside from IO's, you can get the Hasten power from the Speed power pool which provides a great boost to your recharge for a moderate period of time. The more global recharge you get, the more effective Hasten will become, giving you a great global recharge boost. A good goal to aim for is making Hasten recharge in close to two minutes, essentially making it "perma"

7. If you happen to get all of the above covered, you can then go for other things from IO sets. Those can be extra defense, extra damage, extra HP, more damage procs in your powers, and more.


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Originally Posted by Ordius View Post
Well, you haven't really given us much to work with...

Do you know how Single-Origin vs. Hamidon-Origin vs. Invention-Origin Enhancements work? Are you looking for a cheap build/expensive build? Would you like the build to cap defense/recharge/damage? How do you like to play your blaster? Are you a ranged lockdown artist with your Ice blasts? Do you get up close with your Energy punches?

Knowing these sort of things will make any suggestions we give you not be as likely to make you hate your blaster, seeing as how we'd be adapting it to your play style and not giving you a basic template build which might not be as enjoyable.

My best advice, honestly, would be to go and PLAY your Blaster. Learn what works best for you, learn what enemies will give you fits and which ones you can steamroll, and team with people to get some experience with other buffing/debuffing/control sets and how they effect you as a "glass cannon". Also, you're about to wade into the level range where Blasters drop off in terms of damage vs. the enemies' increasing HP and newly-gained mezzing abilities... this is where a lot of new Blasters get discouraged. Don't give up hope! I love my Blasters and they're well worth the journey.
My play style is mainly caster based, range and I love AoE. Energy is good when things get close to me.

Since the game gives limited re spec's when it comes to picking abilities and putting enhancement slots on them I'm worried I'm going to make a fatal mistake and break the character lol. I'm keeping the slots quite even among my powers right now.

Cheap builds, well kinda, I'm only leveling right now. I used to have an endurance issue but I fixed that.

Thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it =D


 

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Originally Posted by Auroxis View Post
You're probably not doing it right, but keep experimenting and post your build for critique.

A really basic way to go about making a build is to first make sure all your basics are covered before worrying about set bonuses. A step by step process would look like this:

1. Pick the right powers at the right time. I believe the Blaster guides have info on all the secondaries and primaries available as well as power pools, listing which are the better powers to pick and when.

2. Make sure you can hit your targets. In Mids, you can set your base chance to hit to simulate attacking +3's which will be the maximum con after you get a rare alpha. To do this, go to Options -> Exemping and Base Values -> set the value in the "Base ToHit" box to 45. Make sure all of your attacks are at least 95% accuracy through accuracy enhancements and set bonuses. Note: the Kismet defense set has a +6% ToHit IO in it, which is well worth the cost and will get you to your accuracy goals much more easily.

3. Make sure you don't run out of endurance easily. As a damage dealer, you do not want to find yourself in a position you can't attack. This is primarily achieved by slotting endurance reduction enhancements in your attacks and toggle powers, and endurance modification enhancements in powers like Stamina. Other things you can do is slot the +recovery IO's from the Performance Shifter EndMod set(in Stamina), Miracle Heal set(in Health), and Numina's Convalescence Heal set(in Health). Those can take a while to obtain, however.

4. Make sure you have enough damage in your attacks. You want to be around the 90% damage enhancement mark for your attacks. To do this you must slot damage enhancements in your attacks.

5. Get recharge in your best Single Target attacks, Area of Effect attacks, and self damage buffs. Your best attacks(especially AoE attacks) need to be up more often, which will make you a more efficient blaster. To get more killing power you must slot recharge into them. Also, your self damage buffs are very important, and you should strive to have around 90% recharge in them. To do this you must slot recharge enhancements and go for global recharge bonuses...

6. Get global recharge bonuses. This is where things get tricky, as IO sets come into play. Invention Origin enhancements have sets which can boost your global values for many things, ranging from extra defense and recovery to extra damage and recharge. The first thing you need to worry about is recharge, so try to get as many of those bonuses in first. Aside from IO's, you can get the Hasten power from the Speed power pool which provides a great boost to your recharge for a moderate period of time. The more global recharge you get, the more effective Hasten will become, giving you a great global recharge boost. A good goal to aim for is making Hasten recharge in close to two minutes, essentially making it "perma"

7. If you happen to get all of the above covered, you can then go for other things from IO sets. Those can be extra defense, extra damage, extra HP, more damage procs in your powers, and more.

Hehe thats a lot to take in, thank you though, its a tremendous help


 

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It's not immediately obvious but respecs are surprisingly easy to obtain. For example, this week's weekly strike target (more comically, weekly task force) is the level 34-43 respec trial for both heroes and villains. You can run these trials as much as you want, but you can claim up to three respecs while doing so. With new issues, a freespec is also virtually always granted to all characters that don't already have one. In other words, don't be shy about trying different things.

My general new blaster advice would be, and apologies if this is old news to you, to simply make sure you keep your favorite basic attacks well slotted with SOs. Don't go too crazy picking up every available attack to the extent that either you can't properly slot any one of them or you don't have the power picks to do other things. By that I mean heal yourself with aid self, accumulate personal defenses from pool powers like tough, weave or hover, et cetera. By "attacks well slotted with SOs" I mean that any attack you use often should have at least one accuracy and three damage SOs*, and you should try to keep them green or white, i.e. your own level or higher.

Inventions are a staggering boon to performance but going from the weird slotting you sometimes see new players come up with to just a solid SO build is an even bigger leap. If you want to get right into inventing and marketing more power to you, literally, but be aware that for approximately half of the game's life inventions didn't even exist, and most of the content in no way requires their use.

*Corollary: You also don't want to slot more than three of any given type of SO. For example, three damage SOs will give you something like 94% damage enhancement. A fourth damage SO will increase that to around 99%. This is due to "enhancement diversification," or ED, heh, but it can be summed up in the handy mnemonic "More than three? Not for me!"


 

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Originally Posted by Nagato View Post
I'm a bit new to City of Heroes, I have a level 33 Ice/Energy Blaster, Magic origin.

I was looking for a bit of advice, Ive been playing with Mids' Hero Designer.

Not sure if I'm doing it right =P
Welcome to the game. Definitely check out the Player Help >> Player Guides >> Guide to Guides forum section for advice about the various blaster primaries and secondaries.

Aside from that, just participate in contact missions and look at your performance at each level to judge where your build needs work (The AE missions can kinda throw you off when the author uses custom enemies). If you take care whilst levelling up, then later you'll be able to exemplar knowing that you'll be effective at the lower level.

Try to choose abilities that you think will be commonly used, as opposed to something that seems nifty but never use in practice.

Doing a respec later is quite easy to get and perform. Some advice though...keep notes of what powers/enhancements that you chose at each level the first time through. This way, you can tweak the build and use your notes to do the respec in just a few minutes.

-Johnny


 

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Originally Posted by Nagato View Post
My play style is mainly caster based, range and I love AoE. Energy is good when things get close to me.
Fair warning... Ice/Energy isn't all that good for AoE. It isn't horrible but it lacks a targeted AoE attack like Fire Ball or Explosive Blast so you are limited to a cone and a rain (rains can be good but they often waste much of their damage due to taking so long to deliver it). On the other hand, Ice Blast has two holds and it slows things down so it's a great set to keep enemies from getting in close to you (and you have some nice heavy hitting punches for the ones that do).

As far as general build suggestions go, you have a couple of options. You can take Hover, focus mainly on your Ice powers, and get Boost Range permanent and you'll be able to avoid melee most of the time while freezing things at long range. Alternately, you can also slot up some punches and use a mix of ranged and melee attacks to do more damage but with more risk. Since Ice gets two holds I'd go the second route... open up with the cone, then drop one enemy and hold a couple more so you can run up and pound them.

In particular, I'd suggest you look into frankenslotting. That's what we call using cheap set IOs to get more enhancement value than you can get from SOs (the ones that enhance two or three things offer more total enhancement than one SO even though each single aspect is weaker, like getting 18% accuracy, 18% damage, and 18% recharge from one IO instead of 33% damage from an SO). The important thing to remember is that recipes from sets with sub-par bonuses are dirt cheap and crafting is cheap as long as they are high-20s to high-30s level IOs, but salvage can get expensive... so only use yellow (uncommon) recipes since those don't need rare salvage. Just listing all your salvage drops (that you don't need) on the market for 1 inf (you get the full bid price, not just what you list it for, and people often start bidding at thousands or tens of thousands for salvage since thay can make 10,000 inf faster than they can bid creep up from 100) will make you a decent amount of influence.

Here's an example of how I'd do a dirt-cheap general purpose Ice/Energy Blaster:

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Level 50 Magic Blaster
Primary Power Set: Ice Blast
Secondary Power Set: Energy Manipulation
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Medicine
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Force Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Ice Blast
  • (A) Maelstrom's Fury - Accuracy/Damage
  • (3) Maelstrom's Fury - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (3) Ruin - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (9) Ruin - Damage/Recharge
  • (34) Ruin - Damage/Endurance
Level 1: Power Thrust
  • (A) Accuracy IO
Level 2: Ice Bolt
  • (A) Maelstrom's Fury - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (5) Maelstrom's Fury - Accuracy/Damage
  • (5) Ruin - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (9) Ruin - Damage/Endurance
  • (34) Ruin - Damage/Recharge
Level 4: Frost Breath
  • (A) Detonation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (7) Detonation - Damage/Endurance/Range
  • (7) Detonation - Accuracy/Damage
  • (11) Damage Increase IO
  • (34) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (43) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 6: Build Up
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (42) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (46) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 8: Hover
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
  • (17) Flight Speed IO
  • (36) Flight Speed IO
  • (37) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
Level 10: Freeze Ray
  • (A) Paralytic - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge
  • (11) Paralytic - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (13) Essence of Curare - Accuracy/Hold
  • (15) Essence of Curare - Endurance/Hold
  • (36) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 12: Ice Storm
  • (A) Detonation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (13) Detonation - Damage/Recharge
  • (15) Detonation - Accuracy/Damage
  • (23) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (36) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (46) Damage Increase IO
Level 14: Fly
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 16: Bone Smasher
  • (A) Smashing Haymaker - Accuracy/Damage
  • (17) Focused Smite - Accuracy/Damage
  • (25) Focused Smite - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (50) Bruising Blow - Damage/Recharge
Level 18: Bitter Ice Blast
  • (A) Maelstrom's Fury - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (19) Ruin - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (19) Ruin - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
  • (23) Ruin - Damage/Endurance
  • (37) Maelstrom's Fury - Damage/Recharge
  • (46) Ruin - Accuracy/Damage
Level 20: Aid Other
  • (A) Healing IO
Level 22: Aid Self
  • (A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance
  • (25) Doctored Wounds - Endurance/Recharge
  • (31) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge
  • (31) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
  • (37) Doctored Wounds - Heal
Level 24: Hasten
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (27) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (31) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 26: Bitter Freeze Ray
  • (A) Maelstrom's Fury - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (27) Ruin - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (29) Ruin - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
  • (29) Damage Increase IO
  • (39) Hold Duration IO
  • (39) Hold Duration IO
Level 28: Aim
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (43) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (43) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 30: Super Speed
  • (A) Run Speed IO
Level 32: Blizzard
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (33) Detonation - Damage/Recharge
  • (33) Detonation - Accuracy/Damage
  • (33) Damage Increase IO
  • (40) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 35: Boost Range
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (42) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 38: Total Focus
  • (A) Smashing Haymaker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (39) Smashing Haymaker - Damage/Recharge
  • (40) Smashing Haymaker - Accuracy/Damage
  • (40) Smashing Haymaker - Damage/Endurance
  • (42) Rope A Dope - Accuracy/Recharge
Level 41: Personal Force Field
  • (A) Defense Buff IO
Level 44: Temp Invulnerability
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
  • (45) Resist Damage IO
  • (45) Resist Damage IO
  • (45) Resist Damage IO
Level 47: Repulsion Bomb
  • (A) Rope A Dope - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (48) Detonation - Damage/Recharge
  • (48) Detonation - Accuracy/Damage
  • (48) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (50) Damage Increase IO
Level 49: Force of Nature
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (50) Recharge Reduction IO
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Level 1: Brawl
  • (A) Accuracy IO
Level 1: Defiance
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Run Speed IO
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift
  • (A) Flight Speed IO
Level 2: Health
  • (A) Healing IO
Level 2: Hurdle
  • (A) Jumping IO
Level 2: Stamina
  • (A) Endurance Modification IO
  • (21) Endurance Modification IO
  • (21) Endurance Modification IO



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The only IO in the whole build that's remotely expensive is the Kismet 6% Accuracy IO, but since that actually gives you a +6% to-hit whenever the power it's in is turned on I consider it well worth the investment, and it's only a few million inf which is not hard to get by the upper 30s or so just from selling salvage drops.


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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nagato View Post
Hey Guys,

I'm a bit new to City of Heroes, I have a level 33 Ice/Energy Blaster, Magic origin.

I was looking for a bit of advice, Ive been playing with Mids' Hero Designer.

Not sure if I'm doing it right =P
Make sure to get Titian Sentinel so you can post your live build into Mid's.


 

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That's a really interesting combo that I'd really not thought of doing. In addition to that, there are many ways to play that toon also.

I'd need to know what you want, so post a build, even if you think it sucks.

I'm not going to post what I'd do, as only taking build up and boost range would offend some.


 

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Between makos bite IO and Thunderstrike and the standard defense powers you will be able to obtain range defense cap. Add in Hover along with Aid Self and you have a pretty nice self contained toon. Energy secondary really offers a nice spread for IOs choices. I have an Arch Energy which this works well for. Only difference is I use a jet pack and have super speed with a stealth IO slotted.

In cave missions solo I start out in the larger rooms and fly above and fight from that vantage point leverage the range defense. I then work from that area out. This way I always have a high ceiling area to fall back to.


1. Why Soft Cap is Important : http://dechskaison.blogspot.com/2011...important.html
2. Limits: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Limits
3. Attack Mechanics: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Attack_Mechanics
4. Rule of Five: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Rule_o...e_Law_of_Fives

 

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Permahasten. RotP up every 81 seconds. And cheap.

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