Dimension Shift in the trials


Adeon Hawkwood

 

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Howdy all,

I'm seeing the trials, particularly the BAF with all the adds, as one of the few consistent uses for Dimension Shift, mainly to give some breathing room if they've gotten out of control.

However... I'm limited in slots to which I can dedicate to Dimension Shift (I chose it as my L49 power). It's my understanding that the IOs and HamiOs that improve intangibility & mez will increase the magnitude of the power. It's also my understanding that the level gap will substantially reduce the magnitude of any mez.

So the question is: what would be your advice for slotting, so that Dimension Shift would reliably shut down a group of L54 bosses? Would it make sense to overslot for magnitude?

Thanks in advance!


 

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Originally Posted by D-Void View Post
It's my understanding that the IOs and HamiOs that improve intangibility & mez will increase the magnitude of the power. It's also my understanding that the level gap will substantially reduce the magnitude of any mez.
Actually Intangibility enhancements will increase the duration of the mez, not the magnitude.

Since Dimension Shift is only mag 3 I don't think it will phase shift bosses unless two characters stack it although I'll admit I've never tested it.


 

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be sure whatever you do, do NOT use intangibility or cage powers during escapee phase because LT ranks have immunity to the immob portion of the power and will run to an exit with 100% dmg immunity basically due to being intangible or caged (yes i have seen it happen)


 

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The same slotting that would allow you to reliably slot your wormhole or gravity distortion field to take out a group of 54 bosses I'd imagine.

Except either of those 2 powers won't cause the confusion or phased mobs and you'll actually be able to damage and get iXP off them.

The best slotting for DS in this situation is to right-click 'remove from tray'.

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Originally Posted by D-Void View Post
Howdy all,

I'm seeing the trials, particularly the BAF with all the adds, as one of the few consistent uses for Dimension Shift, mainly to give some breathing room if they've gotten out of control.

However... I'm limited in slots to which I can dedicate to Dimension Shift (I chose it as my L49 power). It's my understanding that the IOs and HamiOs that improve intangibility & mez will increase the magnitude of the power. It's also my understanding that the level gap will substantially reduce the magnitude of any mez.

So the question is: what would be your advice for slotting, so that Dimension Shift would reliably shut down a group of L54 bosses? Would it make sense to overslot for magnitude?

Thanks in advance!


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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood View Post
Actually Intangibility enhancements will increase the duration of the mez, not the magnitude.
Incorrect. Intangibility is like Knockback in that enhancements increase magnitude instead of duration.


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It's also my understanding that the level gap will substantially reduce the magnitude of any mez.
Actually, mez magnitude is not altered by level gaps, only mez duration is.
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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood View Post
Huh, the wiki says they are Intangibility Duration enhancements.
They've been named incorrectly in the game since day one. They do increase mag, not duration.


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Actually, mez magnitude is not altered by level gaps, only mez duration is.

They've been named incorrectly in the game since day one. They do increase mag, not duration.

now still getting builds up to snuff for the new content, but i experimented with DS for a while. Not sure if this is helpful or not.

If you are going to use the power, RANGE and then...recharge. No ACC. Especially if there is a level difference, that is even better. By not slotting accuracy, it only has a base of like 75% hit. With no accuracy, it misses quite a bit. Using range, you target the farthest thing and fire it off. With missing, and only grabbing the farthest portion of a spawn, it kinda can work as a soft control by only phasing about half the spawn. Basically you can freeze an inconsistent amount and stop inc.

Not sure on the comment about the LTs in the new content, tho. In the regular game, it can made to work.

There are numerous problems and the powers. the effects, the players understanding and even playing with it.

I managed to use it that way for about 5-10 levels in villains a few years ago, and but there were alot of problems with it. But DS can be a usable power.

Not sure if my use of DS would be applicable for the new content or not.


 

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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood View Post
Because that's what the enhancements are called in the game. But Intangibility Duration enhancements don't enhance duration.

Try looking at the description of the Intangibility Duration Enhancements themselves: you'll notice their effect is "Enhances Intangibility Magnitude".


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I'm sorry, I wasn't really specific enough about adds. I didn't mean the escapees; I meant the reinforcements that both Siege and Nightstar get, specifically when both are active simultaneously.
The times that I've seen a BAF fail recently are when the reinforcements start to spiral out of control; this is often due to raw numbers. I feel that a well-placed Dimension Shift could actually let a league address this before it becomes critical.

I'll be more specific: is only one Hami or Invention enhancement for mez / intangibility enough to tag L54 bosses? Does someone have experience using Dimension Shift in this fashion that can make a recommendation?

Edit: I got my impression about higher-con enemies affecting mez magnitude from this thread: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=186666 . Ketch threw in some numbers that I assumed to be accurate. So that's not accurate after all?


 

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