Regen and Destiny


Draugadan

 

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Greetings all.

I was wondering what peoples opinions were on the various Destiny incarnate options coupled with Regen.

Ageless: Does it really feel like Instant Healing recharges faster?
Barrier: Worth it as a mini MOG?
Rebirth: Is an extra heal just what I need?

Thanks for the input.


Creepy - Claws/WP Clown - 50 - August 10, 2008
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Fae Leigh - Grav/Kin Troller - 50 - May 30, 2010

 

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I went with Barrier, high levels of defense + MoG, throw in your Judgement AoE and your Reactive and you'll almost a tankmage.


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You should have already built for recharge, if not, fix it. You're regen, Healing and Regen should be covered, as well as Recovery.

If you have MoG and Shadow Meld ... Adding Barrier will be silly good.

Shadow Meld -> MoG -> ShadowMeld -> Barrier -> Shadow Meld -> Void -> Shadow Meld -> MoG -> Shadow Meld -> Demonic -> Barrier -> Shadow Meld-> MoG -> Shadow Meld -> Void -> Shadow Meld -> .... Hold on 20 seconds and another one will come around. But really, if by now you're still so deep in the pile that you need it, you bit off way more than you have any right to complain about.


 

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Originally Posted by Linea_Alba View Post
You should have already built for recharge, if not, fix it. You're regen, Healing and Regen should be covered, as well as Recovery.

If you have MoG and Shadow Meld ... Adding Barrier will be silly good.

Shadow Meld -> MoG -> ShadowMeld -> Barrier -> Shadow Meld -> Void -> Shadow Meld -> MoG -> Shadow Meld -> Demonic -> Barrier -> Shadow Meld-> MoG -> Shadow Meld -> Void -> Shadow Meld -> .... Hold on 20 seconds and another one will come around. But really, if by now you're still so deep in the pile that you need it, you bit off way more than you have any right to complain about.
Looks like a great chain for those on Red Side. Blue side doesn't have the ShadowMeld.




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I went with Barrier. Love that buff.


 

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Originally Posted by Draugadan View Post
Looks like a great chain for those on Red Side. Blue side doesn't have the ShadowMeld.
Which Blue Side can get too by running tips and switching sides


 

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Can we get Demonic? I thought we only got the patron powers for a trip through red side. Anyway, without Demonic or Void, at high recharge:

Shadow Meld -> Moment of Glory -> Shadow Meld -> Barrier -> Shadow Meld -> Moment of Glory -> Shadow Meld
Then you're down for a bit, but that's two whole minutes into the fight with a big defense buff the whole time and quite often a big resistance buff. And yeah, I'd be picking up Void too. Of course you probably won't just chain those like that, but rather use them situationally, but it's nice to know just how thorough the coverage can be.


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I think you are right Werner that we don't get demonic but Eye of the Magus is the same thing blueside iirc. I was just referring to Shadow Meld being attainable by blueside toons.


 

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I'm IO'd for regen/hp/rchg.
Incarnate wise, I have Spiritual, Void, and Reactive so far.

Makes sense for layered protection to add Barrier.
I will absolutely check out the Shadow Meld suggestion as well.

Thank you all for your insight!


Creepy - Claws/WP Clown - 50 - August 10, 2008
Juniper's Daughter - Fire/Regen Scrapper - 50 - April 12, 2009
Fae Leigh - Grav/Kin Troller - 50 - May 30, 2010

 

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I think you are right Werner that we don't get demonic but Eye of the Magus is the same thing blueside iirc. I was just referring to Shadow Meld being attainable by blueside toons.
My DM/Regen Scrapper has Shadow Meld. I went villain and came back.

I also vote for Barrier. With my DB/Regen's build, the tail end of Barrier puts me in spitting distance of the soft cap to melee at 44.3%. I don't usually recast it constantly, preferring instead to use it on-demand, but I could have that nearly perma. (I think the only reason it is not truly perma is cast/activation time.)


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American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA

 

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Originally Posted by Werner View Post
Can we get Demonic?
You get both when you switch, but only the one you're currently aligned with can be used. The icons even look the same, which can be maddening when you keep wondering why your demonic won't recharge .... Then you finally get smart a day later and notice Eye of the Magus in your powers list and have to switch them out and rewrite your keybinds.

Also, you really don't want to chain all those powers. Use as needed, otherwise cast time is gonna bork your offense.


 

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I went ageless, with the boost in recharge IH is up much more often. Thus a huge increase in dps on my pylon runs.


 

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Originally Posted by Werner View Post
Can we get Demonic? I thought we only got the patron powers for a trip through red side. Anyway, without Demonic or Void, at high recharge:
Shadow Meld -> Moment of Glory -> Shadow Meld -> Barrier -> Shadow Meld -> Moment of Glory -> Shadow Meld
Then you're down for a bit, but that's two whole minutes into the fight with a big defense buff the whole time and quite often a big resistance buff. And yeah, I'd be picking up Void too. Of course you probably won't just chain those like that, but rather use them situationally, but it's nice to know just how thorough the coverage can be.
Yah, I was refering to Soul Mastery. My Regen scrapper will not be going red side. So no Shadow Meld for me.

Edit: I am very much looking forward to Barrier. That is going to be a nice addtion.




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Originally Posted by Draugadan View Post
Yah, I was refering to Soul Mastery. My Regen scrapper will not be going red side. So no Shadow Meld for me.
Is it a role playing issue? I haven't done it, but what, you run twenty tip missions, two morality missions, a patron arc, twenty more tip missions, and two more morality missions, right? It takes a while, but if you like the character, you were presumably playing him. To me, unless there's a role playing issue, there's little difference in running those missions vs. running other content. And if you really hate it, you can set yourself on -1x1 and steamroll it.


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I set them +0x3. The x3 makes it just right so that as you finish one mission you get another tip to drop. You can burn thru 5 in less than an hour easy. 4 days to switch sides, 1 to get your patrons, respec. Then 2 days to Rogue and access to both sides; or 4 days to switch back completely. 10 hours total, 1 hour at a time over 9 to 10 days.


 

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Originally Posted by Werner View Post
Is it a role playing issue? I haven't done it, but what, you run twenty tip missions, two morality missions, a patron arc, twenty more tip missions, and two more morality missions, right? It takes a while, but if you like the character, you were presumably playing him. To me, unless there's a role playing issue, there's little difference in running those missions vs. running other content. And if you really hate it, you can set yourself on -1x1 and steamroll it.
It is a thematic issue. Role playing I guess. Character is in a Hero only SG, is an officer in said group. So, yes. Is a no go. I do understand that it is an easy task to accomplish, and that I could. Not complaining at all, just saying I chose not to follow that route with this character.




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