If that is actually happening then it's a bug... Judgement should be treated the same as any other attack for XP/Inf/Etc. purposes.
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The only reason I can think of there being no rewards is if the leader converted the team to a league, and split you into multiple teams. Then, if a Judgement one-shot killed a group, only the person who got the kill and people on his team (not the whole league) would get XP, etc.
And the leader may have done something like that entirely accidentally. I'm not sure what's triggering it, but when I've led teams, as I'm right clicking on people to check their info and global names, one of the hotkeys for the popmenu is causing me to split the target into a new team.
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Thats exactly what i think must have been happening, I've never run into this problem with judgement before
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Originally Posted by Roderick
The only reason I can think of there being no rewards is if the leader converted the team to a league, and split you into multiple teams. Then, if a Judgement one-shot killed a group, only the person who got the kill and people on his team (not the whole league) would get XP, etc.
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I was wondering if Judgement was being treated like Confuse, if you Confuse two and they kill each other you get no credit, if they beat each other down by 50% you get 50% credit.
I suppose there could have been extreme LAG and the text just wasn't showing up on the screen, I would see 8-10 lines of "xxx killed yyy" with nothing about XP,infl being displayed between the lines.
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You've got your numbers wrong on Confuse: if they beat each other down by 50%, you get 75% credit.
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Originally Posted by OutaControl
I was wondering if Judgement was being treated like Confuse, if you Confuse two and they kill each other you get no credit, if they beat each other down by 50% you get 50% credit.
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I've killed enemies with Judgement (and nothing else) and gotten full rewards. Judgement does not carry any form of XP penalty.
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Actually, it is 50/80. You do 50% of the damage, and you get 80% of the XP. In cforce's Guide to Confusion, he included a nice little table:|
Originally Posted by Katie V
You've got your numbers wrong on Confuse: if they beat each other down by 50%, you get 75% credit.
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Here's a handy table for this, rounded to the nearest percent. If you do A% of the total damage to the mob, and all the other damage is 'confused' damage, you get B% of the total XP for the mob: A.....B 0.....0 10....31 20....50 25....57 30....63 40....73 50....80 60....86 70....90 75....92 80....94 90....97 100...100 |
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Sorry to perpetuate the threadjack, but... In missions where there are two factions fighting each other, or when you have a helper that's not a pet (so it steals XP), do they use the same table, or is it on a 1:1 ratio, like non-teamed players fighting the same foe? Or did the ratio for non-teamed players change when they changed confuse?
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Originally Posted by Local_Man
Actually, it is 50/80. You do 50% of the damage, and you get 80% of the XP. In cforce's Guide to Confusion, he included a nice little table:
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@Roderick
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Pretty sure two factions fighting each other and xp stealing pets use the confuse tables. Non teamed players still split evenly to the best of my knowledge. Same information Local posted but in graphic form from the wiki:|
Originally Posted by Roderick
Sorry to perpetuate the threadjack, but... In missions where there are two factions fighting each other, or when you have a helper that's not a pet (so it steals XP), do they use the same table, or is it on a 1:1 ratio, like non-teamed players fighting the same foe? Or did the ratio for non-teamed players change when they changed confuse?
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If you do 20% you get 75% of the exp from a confused kill.|
Originally Posted by OutaControl
I was wondering if Judgement was being treated like Confuse, if you Confuse two and they kill each other you get no credit, if they beat each other down by 50% you get 50% credit.
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Edited to fix typo of 2% to 20%
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While that could be an issue in Incarnate Trials, it can't actually happen on an ITF. Teams work like they always did, even when part of a league. If you set a normal mission while in a league, only your team sees the active task and can get into that mission.|
Originally Posted by Roderick
The only reason I can think of there being no rewards is if the leader converted the team to a league, and split you into multiple teams. Then, if a Judgement one-shot killed a group, only the person who got the kill and people on his team (not the whole league) would get XP, etc.
And the leader may have done something like that entirely accidentally. I'm not sure what's triggering it, but when I've led teams, as I'm right clicking on people to check their info and global names, one of the hotkeys for the popmenu is causing me to split the target into a new team. |
Similarly, if you start a TF while in a league, the team who started the TF is automatically locked in the league window, and stays locked as long as the TF is active. IIRC the only thing the league leader can do at that point is to remove the entire team from the league.
Interestingly, I noticed that a player who disconnected during a TF did rejoin the team as usual after logging back in, but did not show up in the league window from that point forward. I don't know if that was a fluke or a bug in the league interface. This was in a league made of 3 teams running separate, independent TFs.
When it comes down to it, a league is really just an interface to see the HP/End/Buffs of select people who aren't on your team, a handy automatic chat channel, and nothing more.
I just did ITF on another charater.
I still see things die from Judgement and nothing is displayed for rewards ( infl, xp, sg-rep ) Anyone else experience this while doing an ITF?
I have a 42 scrapper and I ran with a group doing ITF and I found that when stuff died from someone doing a Judgement we didn't get any credit ( no XP, no infl, no SG rep )
I couldn't convince anyone not to use the judgments since I needed the XP.
So, here are my questions.
1. can a purple drop when a Judgement kills?
2. can a shard drop when a Judgement kills?
are there any plans to make it so that the leader can have Judgement(s) and such disabled for the duration of the TF so we do get credit for all kills?