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I find myself (mostly) on Sam's side here, re: humor in the game. Don't get me wrong, I love well-written, lore-friendly humor, and CoH has the writers to pull it off, too. What I don't like is when the writers fail to honor the "fourth wall."

When game writers fail to honor the imaginary boundary between audience and fictional world and indulge in gamer culture in jokes ("Wait 'til my Build Up recharges!"), I start having a problem with it. Done too often - and a very, very little goes a long way - it crotch-punts suspension of disbelief and just plain hammers immersion. Champions Online is rife with this, and even in a genre (comic book superheroes) which is undeniably campy and in which suspension of disbelief is comparatively easy, it made it impossible for me to become immersed in the game world there.

CoH has been notable for finding the right balance point between humor and seriousness...but there are exceptions, almost all of which involve breaking the fourth wall. I do my best to just grimace and move on, but sometimes the spell is simply broken. No more immersion. I either log off or (worse, really) just grind out a few missions, lapsing into "push the button, receive the food pellet" mode.


"And in this moment, I will not run.
It is my place to stand.
We few shall carry hope
Within our bloodied hands."

 

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Where's the 4th wall being broken in that cutscene? The Durays are discussing the normal and Praetorian versions of the Terrible Two - that's not breaking the 4th wall at all.


@Golden Girl

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Where's the 4th wall being broken in that cutscene? The Durays are discussing the normal and Praetorian versions of the Terrible Two - that's not breaking the 4th wall at all.
Did I mention a cutscene? Why, no...I didn't.

I was speaking generally (save for the specific citation of a line of Fusionette's mentioned upthread...).


"And in this moment, I will not run.
It is my place to stand.
We few shall carry hope
Within our bloodied hands."

 

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I can agree with that. Fourth wall breaking tends to really bug me, especially since when people try to do it they don't do it subtly. They tend to do something that's pretty obvious, which can easily break immersion and make you groan. Not cool.


 

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But the Praetorian Terrible Two don't actually do that.
Yes, and...?

Don't know how to be any clearer: the matter was raised as a general point in response to Samuel's comments about humor in the game, not as an observation about the Praetorian version of Jim and 'Nette.


"And in this moment, I will not run.
It is my place to stand.
We few shall carry hope
Within our bloodied hands."

 

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I mean no offence when I say this, but are you actually proud of that?
Eh, I'm not what one would call, eh, what's the word...smart?


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This is where something more interesting than my global and this sentence would be.

 

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Eh, I'm not what one would call, eh, what's the word...smart?
Neither am I. I'm mostly just good about sticking my nose in situations where I'm competent and feigning competence in situations I'm not. But I still feel we should all strive to be wiser, more intelligent and more experience at everything. You know, you live and you learn.


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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

 

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Just to show how subjective this is: I found meta-humour to be some of the funniest there is.


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