Overpopulated, doing the same stuff everyone else is doing, and STILL CAN'T FIND A TEAM!


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I never said "Network Lag" which is very specific type of lag. I only said "lag" which isn't limited to being a network problem.
Right, but your comments about boomboxing seemed to be in reference to server lag and the load indicators. Boomboxing and other emotes are probably some of the things that contribute the least to server load.

i would expect 100 people standing around Atlas Park boomboxing to add less to server load than 50 people fighting Rikti on the Mothership.


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You've changed what he said entirely. He was saying "red means server load" and "red does not mean the server is in danger of bad things happening". (e.g. monumental lag, etc.)
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Well that was the meaning I got from it. I did ask how it wasn't a contradiction giving him a chance to reword it but he just seemed to be talking about an entire different subject so I gave up on it. :P
<shrug> I was on one subject at all times and I did try to clarify it. You're not the only one giving up.


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Your the ones attacking me in my topic and if you don't like the conversation here I'm not forcing you to stay. Just walk away or stay and try to actually have a civil conversation. It's your choice.
To be fair, I think most of the people are 'attacking' the CONTENT of your posts. I choose to stay here because I see things being posted that are factually incorrect. When I see that, I correct them so that new players do not receive wrong information.


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Logged onto Freedom trying to do a Renault SF. I poked around in broadcast and in two channels. *crickets* I tossed on my team leader cap and about two hours later I finished the SF with an 8 person team. Yeah, Freedom is just so overcrowded everywhere that you can't find teams to do what you want.


 

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Right, but your comments about boomboxing seemed to be in reference to server lag and the load indicators. Boomboxing and other emotes are probably some of the things that contribute the least to server load.
No the reference to the server load is how it effects the general lag on any given individual computer. Hence my whole explanation of people who are playing with the minimum system requirements having more lag on a more populated server.

And on that note it looks like you're arguing that boomboxing doesn't contribute to server lag at all while at the same time saying that it does very little to contribute. You'd be right in the first part it doesn't contribute to server lag because the music can be controlled locally on your own computer. But you said that it contributes the least to server load meaning that it is doing something but that should be general lag not server lag.

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i would expect 100 people standing around Atlas Park boomboxing to add less to server load than 50 people fighting Rikti on the Mothership.
Yeah but we're just talking about general lag issues. If you look back I said that boomboxing would only effect the players using or standing around a large amount of boomboxers and I know this to be fact because I've done it. It's not something that'll cause the entire zone to crash, I never said that, but it could potentially cause the boomboxers and anyone near them to crash. Specifically "near" means that the player would have to be close enough to the boomboxers to hear the music before crashing.

At the time I did this there were two people who did not crash at the same time everyone else in a group of about 16. The two people who didn't crash were playing on much better computers than everyone else in the group. One of them was actually running 3 separate accounts on his one computer. My computer at the time could barely handle two accounts.

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To be fair, I think most of the people are 'attacking' the CONTENT of your posts.
You think you're being fair?

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If you can't grasp the BASIC ERROR in your argument, then this is all probably pointless
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Now I have to question your reading comprehension.
This was only taken from your posts and there are several other comments like this that are not directed at the content of my posts. This kinda stuff is an attack against the poster not to the content of the posts. All you've done here is insult me not explain how I am I wrong in a civilized manner.

And BTW your comments could be seen as the equivalent to yelling at someone who bumped into you on the street saying "What are you blind!?" only to turn around and see the person is holding a white cane. Everyone has flaws and it's not really nice to point them out like that. I was actually in special ed classes for 9 years of my education so yes I'm going to it personally when someone sees fit to make fun of me for my poor education.


 

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Man, I could go out and start teams and thus solve my problem, or I could go on the forum and endlessly debate the context of words to mind numbing levels and tell people how wrong they are on things completely irrelevant to me getting on teams. What to do. What. to. do. Oh right....


 

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Music is client side, just like any other noise in the game. And I can pretty much guaranty that the boombox, with it's eleven sides to it, does not create more lag than a costumed character. Heck one wearing nothing but speedos is more for the computer to draw than the boombox.
I can remember there was a patch note somewhere about the Drum emote that they had to edit it because it was causing undue lag to the server when people used it.

*dives into Paragonwiki*

There it is.
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/emote drum and /emote drumlow will no longer play sounds (They were impacting performance too much). This is a temporary change to address performance. Look for drum sounds to return in a future build.
Well, "Lag" and "Performace" are probably two different things, so I'm more than likely wrong. :P


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Wow, I appear to have missed an amusing hissy fit by deciding I didn't care to come back to this thread a couple days ago.


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See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.

 

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I can remember there was a patch note somewhere about the Drum emote that they had to edit it because it was causing undue lag to the server when people used it.

*dives into Paragonwiki*

There it is.


Well, "Lag" and "Performace" are probably two different things, so I'm more than likely wrong. :P
Ah, I would not have recalled that as it was before my time and for me, the drums have always had sound. Or I could be confusing it with the Tiki Lounge. :รพ

Posi has a good blog about the difference between Lag and Frame Rate, Frame Rate being the likely performance issue in this instance.


 

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Yeah, that's probably what the patch notes mean. I just thought it said 'changed due to lag' before I looked it up and found it.


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No the reference to the server load is how it effects the general lag on any given individual computer.
The thing is that beyond conditions of very high server load in specific areas (mothership raids and some ITF missions being an obvious examples) or when the server is near peak capacity, i personally see little effect from server load. Your first, and many subsequent posts, certainly spent far more time going on about server load than anything to do with your specific system. What i and several others were trying to point out is that your assertions about how server status/load and population correspond were somewhat, erm, inaccurate. (i'm trying to characterize your posts in the best possible light, please play along.)

Now i'm not going to say that boomboxes have no effect on server load; after all, it does have to track the player's status and pass along the bits to tell your client he's boomboxing, but that's near enough the same as doing nothing in terms of load. i'd expect that it has almost no detectable effect compared to the character standing there idle.

You certainly appeared to be claiming that activities that are almost entirely handled client side were a significant source of server load, not just for your personal client. The two are not even vaguely equivalent.

Moving on...


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Anyway, we started with discussion of how to find teams and wandered into an off-the-wall discussion of server load.

I'm curious if the OP was able to find one or more global channels that were helpful in finding teams. This is information that would be useful to many.


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Anyway, we started with discussion of how to find teams and wandered into an off-the-wall discussion of server load.

I'm curious if the OP was able to find one or more global channels that were helpful in finding teams. This is information that would be useful to many.
i've had good luck with going into the appropriate server forum and asking. So far it's worked every single time.


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Anyway, we started with discussion of how to find teams and wandered into an off-the-wall discussion of server load.

I'm curious if the OP was able to find one or more global channels that were helpful in finding teams. This is information that would be useful to many.
That was actually posted a while ago just before the sever load discussion started. You really think I'd let the topic be derailed so badly if someone hadn't already answered my question.

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You were saying about Freedom not being overpopulated??? It's completely full right now, as in no one else can get on Freedom. Not down, there's no maintenance right now, just full. Not the first time this has happened either but it is the first time without there being some sort of event going on like Double XP weekend and/or free account reactivation.


 

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You were saying about Freedom not being overpopulated??? It's completely full right now, as in no one else can get on Freedom. Not down, there's no maintenance right now, just full. Not the first time this has happened either but it is the first time without there being some sort of event going on like Double XP weekend and/or free account reactivation.
I'll just point out i20 was released recently with a good amount of end game content since logic doesn't seem to be a strong point for you.


 

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You were saying about Freedom not being overpopulated??? It's completely full right now, as in no one else can get on Freedom. Not down, there's no maintenance right now, just full. Not the first time this has happened either but it is the first time without there being some sort of event going on like Double XP weekend and/or free account reactivation.
Issue 20 isn't an "event"? I would have to disagree. When I logged in the other night, NONE of the servers were green. The servers are all jumping! Not only is Issue 20 an event, it's apparently quite a popular one.


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Issue 20 has been live for a week now, why would that have any effect on how many people are online. That would make sense if it had been happening all week long but only for 1 day and at the end of the week? Where's the logic in that?


 

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Issue 20 has been live for a week now, why would that have any effect on how many people are online. That would make sense if it had been happening all week long but only for 1 day and at the end of the week? Where's the logic in that?
Not following you at all.
Why would Issue 20 be having any affect on how many people are online??? um, because it's popular? I think that would explain all the people online. And no, you wouldn't expect the crowds to be on "all week long". Most people don't play as much on weeknights.


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