Moniter that fits my graphics card


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I just got this graphics card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150447) and want to figure out what I need in a monitor to show most of what it can put out. Not in a super hurry to find one due to stupid UPS losing my case so I am now waiting for replacement to ship to me(will not come till the 1st-5th if the estimate process time is correct) or lost one to magically appear.(oh and ordered on the 4th so just a tiny massive bit annoyed)

monitor I have off old desktop is an HP vs15. what percent of my graphic card's capabilities could this display?


 

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Your graphics card blows that monitor out of the water. Really, that monitor just blows. Maximum res of 1024x768? Gah! You poor thing.

Pretty much any flatscreen made in the last year will be exponentially better than that thing. Even the cheap crap.


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1024x768? My phone's screen is nearly the same resolution as that!

The "max resolution" of the video card is 2560 x 1600 (you won't hit that with a single monitor... unless you're willing to pay a crazy amount). Exactly what monitor you go with depends on your budget, but I'd suggest a minimum of 1280x1024. Find a nice LCD with a fast response time. If you're willing to spend a bit more money, go for a 1080p display (or 1600x1200 if you can find one).


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okay so what important things besides resolution should I look for?

oh and not playing on that monitor use medium laptop with 1368x768 max res. not touching old desktop any more for this no more 5 minute loads with 512mb of ram thank you


 

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I just got this graphics card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150447) and want to figure out what I need in a monitor to show most of what it can put out. Not in a super hurry to find one due to stupid UPS losing my case so I am now waiting for replacement to ship to me(will not come till the 1st-5th if the estimate process time is correct) or lost one to magically appear.(oh and ordered on the 4th so just a tiny massive bit annoyed)

monitor I have off old desktop is an HP vs15. what percent of my graphic card's capabilities could this display?

What kind of budget are you looking at?

If you're looking for a nice high-res monitor with stupid-low response times, you could do a LOT worse than these $300+ models.

SAMSUNG P2770FH ToC Rose Black 27" 1ms Full HD HDMI LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 DC 70,000:1 (1,000:1)

ViewSonic X Series VX2739WM 27" 1ms HDMI Full HD 1080p Widescreen LCD Monitor w/ 4 port USB-hub300 cd/m2 DC 100,000:1(1200:1) Built-in Speakers



If those are a little rich for your blood, maybe look at these more economical options in the $160-$180 range..

ViewSonic VX2239WM Black 22" 1920x1080 2ms Full HD HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor W/Speakers 300 cd/m2 1000:1

SAMSUNG BX2231 Glossy Black 21.5" 2ms Full HD LED Backlight LCD Monitor Slim Design 250 cd/m2 DCR 5,000,000:1 (1,000:1)


I don't really recommend a 1920x1080 monitor for anything less than 20" though. Running at that resolution on smaller monitors can be REALLY hard on the eyes.

If you need to go with a smaller monitor you're probably going to be locked into lower resolution monitors in the 1440x900 range.

At this point you're talking 17-19 inches and $80-$120. Also, almost universally, these monitors are 5ms response time. They're not "terrible" or anything, but they're not "great" either.

Also, are you looking for just one monitor? Or would you like to go with two. Note, I wouldn't recommend spanning games across two monitors (the bezels get in the way of targeting). But it's nice to be able to run a TF or raid and have something like Paragonwiki open to the pertinent info on my second monitor.



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okay so what important things besides resolution should I look for?
Response time (lower is better for gaming), contrast ratio, black level, brightness, and TN vs IPS are the other 'measures' I can think of off the top of my head.

Although, in all honestly, what I'd just do is find one in my price range with good reviews that meet my minimum desired resolution (screen size, unfortunately, seems to now be tied to resolution...). Currently, I just play on my laptop, which has a 1368x768 monitor as well, which is quite adequate


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Response time (lower is better for gaming), contrast ratio, black level, brightness, and TN vs IPS are the other 'measures' I can think of off the top of my head.

Although, in all honestly, what I'd just do is find one in my price range with good reviews that meet my minimum desired resolution (screen size, unfortunately, seems to now be tied to resolution...). Currently, I just play on my laptop, which has a 1368x768 monitor as well, which is quite adequate
yeah I am more worried about the settings then res sense I can only play at minimal to performance with this laptop(can go recommended for costumes).

would like 90-120 range but can do up to 160ish as long as its just not a marginal increase. I prefer performance anyways but don't want to waste my graphics card to much.

edit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824009261
how does this one compare to the 2 in the 160-180 range hyperstrike posted? is the promo code savings already on there? if not its only 129.


also spent like 644 total on the whole tower so anything much above a 1/4th of the cost of whole thing is not happening.

edit: would prefer built in speakers. on that note if it doesn't mention having or not having speakers does it have or not have them?


 

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yeah I am more worried about the settings then res sense I can only play at minimal to performance with this laptop(can go recommended for costumes).

would like 90-120 range but can do up to 160ish as long as its just not a marginal increase. I prefer performance anyways but don't want to waste my graphics card to much.

edit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824009261
how does this one compare to the 2 in the 160-180 range hyperstrike posted? is the promo code savings already on there? if not its only 129.
Resolution is okay. Contrast is fine. The only down-side is that it's a 5ms monitor. It's not that you can't game on such a monitor, but you may experience small lags in graphics. Small things like going to hit a green inspie at the very last sliver of health only to find you're already dead on the ground. Stuff like that.


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also spent like 644 total on the whole tower so anything much above a 1/4th of the cost of whole thing is not happening.
Okay, but I'm a firm believer in "You get what you pay for." This doesn't mean I automatically go out and buy the most expensive stuff. Just that in some cases I spend a little more for a better class of component.

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edit: would prefer built in speakers. on that note if it doesn't mention having or not having speakers does it have or not have them?
No, the monitor you linked to doesn't have built-in speakers. I live in an apartment, so I don't really like using speakers. I'm a headphones kinda guy.



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Okay, but I'm a firm believer in "You get what you pay for." This doesn't mean I automatically go out and buy the most expensive stuff. Just that in some cases I spend a little more for a better class of component.
Yeah I just got my new tower about 2 weeks ago and I couldn't find anything that ran the game for under $700. I settled on spending a thousand and got a decent system. Still using my old monitor which is an Acer widescreen 19 or 21 inches. Too lazy to measure.

The games looks great tho. I've been running Ultramode maxed out.


 

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If you're willing to run at under-ultramode settings, you should be able to find a LOT of systems that'll have no problem running CoX for under $700 (although, the major OEMs like to put total **** video cards in their systems by default, so customization would be necessary with them). I'd be surprised if you couldn't find a system for ~700 that can do ultra mode as well.


(if you're looking for laptops, you'll have to be much carefuller with them... OEMs like to use integrated graphics solutions that are barely capable of running Aero...)


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If you're willing to run at under-ultramode settings, you should be able to find a LOT of systems that'll have no problem running CoX for under $700 (although, the major OEMs like to put total **** video cards in their systems by default, so customization would be necessary with them). I'd be surprised if you couldn't find a system for ~700 that can do ultra mode as well.


(if you're looking for laptops, you'll have to be much carefuller with them... OEMs like to use integrated graphics solutions that are barely capable of running Aero...)

Yeah. Had a buddy recently ask me to find him a laptop capable of Ultra Mode for $1000. I really couldn't recommend anything to him. All the ones right at the < $1000 range were crappy integrated graphics or sub-par discrete that wouldn't be able to do Ultra mode.

Luckily he scored a bonus at work and was able to bump his budget just a bit so I could recommend a good solid system for him.



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Yeah I just got my new tower about 2 weeks ago and I couldn't find anything that ran the game for under $700. I settled on spending a thousand and got a decent system. Still using my old monitor which is an Acer widescreen 19 or 21 inches. Too lazy to measure.

The games looks great tho. I've been running Ultramode maxed out.

I bought my system right at the end of 2009. With the 260 it ran nice. When I upgraded to the 460 at the end of last year, it ran even nicer. Since I was able to step up to the 560 (for $36 it was a no-brainer), it runs even nicer still. Outside of tweaks and upgrades, the basic system itself (Core2Quad, 8GB RAM) still has plenty of years of play left in it.



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Okay I have no clue what you are talking about. I asked people here about what the minimum I needed to play ultramode and then decided on a budget and got the best I could get above those minimums while staying within my budget. I think I did pretty good with this set-up.

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Okay I have no clue what you are talking about. I asked people here about what the minimum I needed to play ultramode and then decided on a budget and got the best I could get above those minimums while staying within my budget. I think I did pretty good with this set-up.

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Talking about the flip-side of decent performance.

System longevity.



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I think a nice 1600x900 or 1680x1050 would work well with an HD 5770. Of course normal people choose by it's physical size and not the resolution.


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Talking about the flip-side of decent performance.

System longevity.
I got that from the very last part of your post. It was the 260, 460, 560 that had/has me baffled. Tho looking at what I posted about my new system I'm guessing that those numbers might refer to the processor?

Uhm if it helps I'll try to put my grasp of computer hardware into perspective. When I had to buy a new motherboard for my old system all I can tell you is that the original one was red and the new one was orange.

Oh and I know what GB are, and I know that TB are a lot more than GB but how much more I have no idea.

But other than that my mind is essentially blank as a fart as far as computer tech goes.

Hee hee I'm pathetic.


 

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I got that from the very last part of your post. It was the 260, 460, 560 that had/has me baffled. Tho looking at what I posted about my new system I'm guessing that those numbers might refer to the processor?

Uhm if it helps I'll try to put my grasp of computer hardware into perspective. When I had to buy a new motherboard for my old system all I can tell you is that the original one was red and the new one was orange.

Oh and I know what GB are, and I know that TB are a lot more than GB but how much more I have no idea.

But other than that my mind is essentially blank as a fart as far as computer tech goes.

Hee hee I'm pathetic.
260, 460, 560 = Nvidia graphics cards of different generations.

1GB = 1 Gigabyte = 1,024 MB (Megabyte)
1TB = 1 Terabyte = 1,024 GB

It gets a bit confusing since as a marketing ploy hard drive manufacturers define a GB as 1,000 MB (so the capacity sounds greater) while everything else computer related defines a GB as 1,024 MB. Therefore that 750 GB hard drive actually only clocks in at 698 GB.


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260, 460, 560 = Nvidia graphics cards of different generations.

1GB = 1 Gigabyte = 1,024 MB (Megabyte)
1TB = 1 Terabyte = 1,024 GB

It gets a bit confusing since as a marketing ploy hard drive manufacturers define a GB as 1,000 MB (so the capacity sounds greater) while everything else computer related defines a GB as 1,024 MB. Therefore that 750 GB hard drive actually only clocks in at 698 GB.
Doh! I should have realized that since the thread is about graphic cards and monitors.

Yeah I'd have never guessed the TB thing. I remember GB from the sequence 256, 512, 1024 on older comps RAM.


 

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I got that from the very last part of your post. It was the 260, 460, 560 that had/has me baffled. Tho looking at what I posted about my new system I'm guessing that those numbers might refer to the processor?
Yeah, it's about the GPU nVidia GeForce GTX 260, GTX 460, and GTX 560Ti.

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Oh and I know what GB are, and I know that TB are a lot more than GB but how much more I have no idea.
Okay: For memory:

1 Byte = 8 Bits
kBbyte = 1024 Bytes (2^10)
mByte = 1024 kBytes (2^20)(1,048,576 Bytes)
gByte = 1024 mBytes (2^30)(1,073,741,824 Bytes)
tByte = 1024 gBytes (2^40)(1,099,511,627,776 Bytes)
pByte = 1024 tBytes (2^50)(1,125,899,906,842,624 Bytes)

For hard drives.

kByte = 1000 Bytes (10^3)
mByte = 1000 kBytes (10^6)(1,000,000 Bytes)
gByte = 1000 mBytes (10^9)(1,000,000,000 Bytes)
tByte = 1000 gBytes (10^12)(1,000,000,000,000 Bytes)
pByte = 1000 tBytes) (10^15)(1,000,000,000,000,000 Bytes)

Why are they different? Essentially an attempt by computer scientists to frame the numbers they were talking about in a way that people who weren't used to binary numbering could understand, then someone at the hard drive companies using the metric notations literally to make their products seem larger.



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Yeah, it's about the GPU nVidia GeForce GTX 260, GTX 460, and GTX 560Ti.



Okay: For memory:

1 Byte = 8 Bits
kBbyte = 1024 Bytes (2^10)
mByte = 1024 kBytes (2^20)(1,048,576 Bytes)
gByte = 1024 mBytes (2^30)(1,073,741,824 Bytes)
tByte = 1024 gBytes (2^40)(1,099,511,627,776 Bytes)
pByte = 1024 tBytes (2^50)(1,125,899,906,842,624 Bytes)

For hard drives.

kByte = 1000 Bytes (10^3)
mByte = 1000 kBytes (10^6)(1,000,000 Bytes)
gByte = 1000 mBytes (10^9)(1,000,000,000 Bytes)
tByte = 1000 gBytes (10^12)(1,000,000,000,000 Bytes)
pByte = 1000 tBytes) (10^15)(1,000,000,000,000,000 Bytes)

Why are they different? Essentially an attempt by computer scientists to frame the numbers they were talking about in a way that people who weren't used to binary numbering could understand, then someone at the hard drive companies using the metric notations literally to make their products seem larger.
I'm still holding out for my 1 googlebyte hard drive...


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Doh! I should have realized that since the thread is about graphic cards and monitors.
And the fun thing with nVidia - their previous numbering scheme was in the thousands... so 250/560/etc is better than their 6600 for example


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And the fun thing with nVidia - their previous numbering scheme was in the thousands... so 250/560/etc is better than their 6600 for example
That's probably what helped throw me off. The tower I just replaced had an nVidia 8800 card, and it probably didn't help that my new AMD is also in the thousands.


 

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I'm still holding out for my 1 googlebyte hard drive...

I wouldn't hold my breath. And it'd be googolbyte (1 with 100 zeros after it).

Unless there's some massive revolution in storage technology, you won't see a drive that big in your lifetime (if ever).



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I wouldn't hold my breath. And it'd be googolbyte (1 with 100 zeros after it).

Unless there's some massive revolution in storage technology, you won't see a drive that big in your lifetime (if ever).
It could happen fairly easily, all the HD manufacturers have to do simply redefine the unit of storage again!


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