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An alt he kept offline before specifically for this purpose.
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Originally Posted by Miss Chief
No one is sure how he did it, possibly with an unknown slash command to make him an OP but he needs dealt with.
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If that is true then that's the lowest of the low.
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Originally Posted by TriAngel_EU
An alt he kept offline before specifically for this purpose.
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Wont the GMs help to get the channel back? Really strange if they dont, im also suprised that Kendai havent been banned from the game yet.
Isn't his behaviour pretty much the definition of griefing.
And thats a bannable offense, is it not?
Sad to have heard this happen to you. I'd advice make a a new channel asap. Let the mods be the few players you trust and keep it that way.
(This reminds me too much of the fate of a channel I loved being in which also got high-jacket)
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Defiant Events 2 seems to be up and running nicely, I'd suggest we leave Kendai to have his own little private channel. But it would be nice to see a mod step in and give us back something we all consider to be 'ours'.
There's a chance this could damage the population of Defiant in the same way losing salsbadgehunters would damage Union
Well, pretty soon he'll be Operating an empty channel. And possibly find himself teamless for the foreseable future.
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Because of a chat channel? Seriously? Just go to Defiant Events 2, job done. People should stop being so dramatic....
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Originally Posted by Miss Chief
people are talking about leaving the game and stopping their subscription because of this,
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Is the person trying to destroy CoH with the problems he and his cronies are causing,people are talking about quiting the game.Surley the powers to be should take note of this and at least look into it then make up thier minds as to what to do.If these actions by a few persons are actually damaging the player base,which no company wants they should act on it .I would hate to see this game go south due to the actions of a few idiots and their playground squabble.
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Originally Posted by Miss Chief
Sorry to post this again, but ******* has kicked everyone from the channel AGAIN and made it private. No one is sure how he did it, possibly with an unknown slash command to make him an OP but he needs dealt with. And Soon.
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I know he kicked the mods the other day, but now he's kicked everyone? Wasn't there about 1,000 members of the channel (not all active, I grant you). I'm hoping I've interpreted that wrongly, because otherwise...
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As far as I'm aware Kendai demoted all the other mods again and silenced an awful lot of people who weren't hidden. There was an "apology" posted which someone might have the logs of, but which basically said that although they were sorry how things had turned out, they acted appropriately and this is how things are going to be from now on.|
Originally Posted by Escalus
Wait... what?
I know he kicked the mods the other day, but now he's kicked everyone? Wasn't there about 1,000 members of the channel (not all active, I grant you). I'm hoping I've interpreted that wrongly, because otherwise... |
"Defiant Chat Channel" and "Defiant Events 2" are currently the go-to places for those who'd rather chat or attempt to organise events without an overdose of Drama. Probably better to join both channels if you can, as unfortunately the community has gotten a little fragmented because of this.
As was pointed out in DE2 last night, if a new player joined the server they used to get pointed straight to Defiant Events, where they could find a reasonably nice + friendly bunch of folk who were willing to chat and help them out. Sadly that's no longer the case under the "new management", which has made it pretty clear that it believes the channel is for 'events only' and there is to be no 'Off Topic' chat... and even if you can sneak in a conversation under the radar, the membership numbers of Defiant Events have plummeted (due both to bans/kicks and personal choice) so you'll be talking to far fewer people.
Looks like I logged just before this kicked off last night.
Well as others have said use Defiant Events 2, Defiant Chat Channel and a little plug for Defiant Taskforce.
I will if I haven't already been kicked quit DE when I log on. Have already taken the "Gentleman" off my global list and will be putting same on Ignore.
Done and Done.
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Um.. just out of curiosity, where do you get this from? Kendai said that chatter is fine, but people should kindly hold back when an event is organised - just like it used to be really. It was in fact after Kendai was kicked out that the "then-management" tried to enforce the rule that Defiant Events should only be used for events, and idle chatter should be conducted in Defiant Chat. A few (including myself) disagreed, pointing out that this was not how Defiant works. |
Originally Posted by Maelwys
Sadly that's no longer the case under the "new management", which has made it pretty clear that it believes the channel is for 'events only' and there is to be no 'Off Topic' chat...
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Anyhow, I hope this sorts itself out, and we find each other in the same place, whatever the name might be.
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I "get this" from the silence ban which Kendai inflicted upon myself several days ago, as well as the batch that were being fired out last night, together with with a /tell conversation that I held with Kendai as a result of the forum post I made here about the silencing, pointing out the hypocrisy of his "Silencing will be used as a last resort" statement.|
Originally Posted by AresCrusader
Um.. just out of curiosity, where do you get this from? Kendai said that chatter is fine, but people should kindly hold back when an event is organised - just like it used to be really. It was in fact after Kendai was kicked out that the "then-management" tried to enforce the rule that Defiant Events should only be used for events, and idle chatter should be conducted in Defiant Chat. A few (including myself) disagreed, pointing out that this was not how Defiant works.
Anyhow, I hope this sorts itself out, and we find each other in the same place, whatever the name might be. |
I was in-channel yeserday evening when Kendai was kicked off OP status (albeit temporarily) and I saw no mention of chat lockdown - in fact I'd say that the drama level and chatter was at an all time high. Regardless, I've been logged into BOTH channels this morning for about an hour so far, and there has been precisely one line said in DE:
"[Defiant Events]DANGER: still running ITF speed run.. send me a tell for invite"
This same line was also said in DE2, along with screenful upon screenful of the usual friendly chatter: welcomes to the channel/questions about maintenance/base editing chatter/invites to SG + Coalitions/light hearted insults/complaining about housework... etc etc. Much of it from the old DE regulars and OPs. If this channel (DE2) has been setup by the same OPs you're saying were trying to lock-down off-topic chatter from DE1... I can see no evidence of that currently taking place, and I know which atmosphere I'd feel more comfortable inviting a newbie player to.
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i believe that this is where the issue lies as it seems no matter who is in "charge" or not as the case may be but that the events channel surely could be used for team shouts and after all , there is another channel called "chat channel". if there are no teams going its nice to just keep an eye on the events channel to see if anything might happen whilst pottering about and not miss anything because of the many lines of chat flowing.|
Originally Posted by AresCrusader
**the rule that Defiant Events should only be used for events, and idle chatter should be conducted in Defiant Chat. A few (including myself) disagreed, pointing out that this was not how Defiant works.
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i also feel that its the conduct of some people on the events channel that is making people not wishing to play the game as there are too much rude language, offensive comments about others and general childish sniping that only adds to the situation and does nothing to solve it.
im not supporting anyone on either side i just want to be able to team with people fairly easily and i do hope that maybe people can work it out and move on and have less drama each night and more shards
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Shame on you all for trying to force somebody out of the game. It doesn't take much for people's cruelty to surface, it seems. Nobody is saying you have to like Kendai, but there is a big difference between disliking someone and actively working to hurt them and that is what I'm seeing from a lot of the members of the defiant community, an active attempt to personally hurt a person who they feel wronged them.
I'm sure I'll be attacked and labelled a "crony" for trying to stand up for someone, but I strongly believe that trying to hurt a person, in any way, is flat out wrong and I can't watch it silently anymore. You people should be ashamed.
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This should have been sorted out by the people running the channel getting together on a completly private channel and sorting out the problems.Instead it has been done in the open channel where everyone and his dog has had their say.I,m sure that this could still be done if only 1 person was to make the first move,I will not say who should do it but someone must or this bitterness is just going to continue ,and possibly continue to disrupt the normal smooth running of getting teams for TF,s and what ever else people want to do.So I will finish by asking that all the people directly involed get together and sort it out in a mature fashion.Do it on a private channel or PM,s whichever you want but please just do it so we can all get back to playing the game we all enjoy ,and not keep sniping at each other.Over to you.|
Originally Posted by Kid Snowflake
Shame on you all for trying to force somebody out of the game. It doesn't take much for people's cruelty to surface, it seems. Nobody is saying you have to like Kendai, but there is a big difference between disliking someone and actively working to hurt them and that is what I'm seeing from a lot of the members of the defiant community, an active attempt to personally hurt a person who they feel wronged them.
I'm sure I'll be attacked and labelled a "crony" for trying to stand up for someone, but I strongly believe that trying to hurt a person, in any way, is flat out wrong and I can't watch it silently anymore. You people should be ashamed. |
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Agreed. More discussion less bullying please |
Originally Posted by Prof_Radburn
This should have been sorted out by the people running the channel getting together on a completly private channel and sorting out the problems.Instead it has been done in the open channel where everyone and his dog has had their say.I,m sure that this could still be done if only 1 person was to make the first move,I will not say who should do it but someone must or this bitterness is just going to continue ,and possibly continue to disrupt the normal smooth running of getting teams for TF,s and what ever else people want to do.So I will finish by asking that all the people directly involed get together and sort it out in a mature fashion.Do it on a private channel or PM,s whichever you want but please just do it so we can all get back to playing the game we all enjoy ,and not keep sniping at each other.Over to you.
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noone is trying to force him out of the game, just trying to stick up for what the most us belive is right, due to his actions several people are seriously considering quitting for good. so who was the one forcing people out?
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Originally Posted by Kid Snowflake
Shame on you all for trying to force somebody out of the game. It doesn't take much for people's cruelty to surface, it seems. Nobody is saying you have to like Kendai, but there is a big difference between disliking someone and actively working to hurt them and that is what I'm seeing from a lot of the members of the defiant community, an active attempt to personally hurt a person who they feel wronged them.
I'm sure I'll be attacked and labelled a "crony" for trying to stand up for someone, but I strongly believe that trying to hurt a person, in any way, is flat out wrong and I can't watch it silently anymore. You people should be ashamed. |
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Originally Posted by Identity_EU
noone is trying to force him out of the game, just trying to stick up for what the most us belive is right, due to his actions several people are seriously considering quitting for good. so who was the one forcing people out?
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Originally Posted by Identity_EU
so who was the one forcing people out?
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Until people can look at this objectively and see that there is blame on both sides all you're going to have is rabble-rousers causing splits in the community and trying to incite hatred.
its no biggy, everyone join Defiant Events2 and leave him to his own channel
no one has to quit the game, if you feel like it you can always put him on ignore
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Let's say, for the sake of argument, that there's an empty lot on the side of the road.|
Originally Posted by Kid Snowflake
Agreed. More discussion less bullying please
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Some enterprising young chap decides it'd be a good place to build a restaurant.
The restaurant gets built, and gradually customers start to come by.
Over time the restaurant gets more and more popular, and becomes a popular neighbourhood hangout. Those new to the area are regularly pointed in its direction as a place to have a good meal, meet people and enjoy themselves.
The builder/owner of the restaurant finds they have to hire new staff members to handle all the customers. Some of the new staff members are liked more than others, but in general, the place works. It remains popular, and the number of people coming in and out continues to grow.
Gradually over subsequent years, the number of people living in the neighbourhood starts to dwindle. But despite the reduced number of residents nearby, the restaurant continues to do business and remains popular. It's open 24/7 - You can never go inside and find it completely quiet or empty.
One day, one of the staff members (with something of a reputation for being rather short-tempered with rowdier customers) is a bit more short than usual. This shortness is noticed by another member of staff and a staff meeting is called. At the staff meeting, the owner and the other members of staff hold a vote to determine what they should do.
The short-tempered staff member hears about the vote, and unbeknownst to the rest of the staff, they change the locks on the doors of the restaurant and declare themselves the new owner. The other members of staff, including the person who originally built the restaurant, are locked out in the cold and told to take a hike.
The customers are naturally somewhat surprised by this turn of events. The "normal" thing to do would be to file a complaint with the local authorities to get the disgruntled staff member forcefully evicted, and give the restaurant back to its rightful owner... but some of the customers think that the member of staff who seized control was right to seize control, and rally against the previous staff members when they attempt to get a petition going to give to law enforcement officials. The original members of staff walk away.
The customers still go along to the restaurant the next day, but find it changed. The atmosphere isn't as easy-going as usual. There is no music playing, there are people arguing loudly in the corner, and there doesn't seem to be anyone in the kitchen or behind the till.
Suddenly a brand new restaurant, complete with an attached bar/grill, opens right across the street... staffed by all the workers who had been kicked out. Customers who venture inside find the food and atmosphere almost identical to that which they had previously enjoyed in the original restaurant.
Customers flock to the new restaurant in droves. Eventually only a few "die-hard" stragglers remain behind in the original restaurant, unwilling to move across the street and arguing that the old place is still just as good as it always was, even though it is now virtually deserted.
The new restaurant quietly takes over as the neighbourhood go-to spot.
...sound familiar to anyone?
@Maelwys, nice story but I can't afford a restaurant. How much prestige would that cost?
Sorry to post this again, but @kendai has kicked everyone from the channel AGAIN and made it private. No one is sure how he did it, possibly with an unknown slash command to make him an OP but he needs dealt with. And Soon.
For reference, I have also reported this post myself. people are talking about leaving the game and stopping their subscription because of this, yet the mods here and GM's in game see fit to wash their hands of the trouble caused as it's a 'public channel'?
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