It is Over


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So I just saw stacker say that he was done messing with his bases because he is bored with it. He has taught so many of us so much. I feel that this truely means the end of our hope for improvement. Good Bye my beloved sub-game, you have been ignored to death. You will be missed.


 

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I wouldn't say it's over yet. Base building has been on life support for so long that I think if the dev's could find a way to pull the plug, they would. Stacker has been one of the biggest names in base building, If not arguably the biggest. I think stacker is seeing the same thing I am. There is still hope for the bases, but it's fleeting. Already so many inventive and creative builders have left or given up on Base Building, that if something isn't done soon, there will be no one to care about bases.

I don't think the Dev's are trying to deliberately ignore the bases, I just think there isn't a dev who has any interest in trying to save the bases. There not trying to be cold or callous. This is there business. And the dev's have invested no passion into base building.

Is it over? No


It's just lying in a hospital bed in a dark room. Tubes and wires sticking out and running to machines. no one visits anymore. No one cares.


 

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Originally Posted by unjust View Post
I wouldn't say it's over yet. Base building has been on life support for so long that I think if the dev's could find a way to pull the plug, they would. Stacker has been one of the biggest names in base building, If not arguably the biggest. I think stacker is seeing the same thing I am. There is still hope for the bases, but it's fleeting. Already so many inventive and creative builders have left or given up on Base Building, that if something isn't done soon, there will be no one to care about bases.

I don't think the Dev's are trying to deliberately ignore the bases, I just think there isn't a dev who has any interest in trying to save the bases. There not trying to be cold or callous. This is there business. And the dev's have invested no passion into base building.

Is it over? No


It's just lying in a hospital bed in a dark room. Tubes and wires sticking out and running to machines. no one visits anymore. No one cares.
It could also be that the coding for bases is a tangled train wreck that cannot be sorted out and should be scrapped and replaced. Problem with THAT is that many groups could lose their well built bases and need to rebuild them from scratch using whatever new tools are implemented.


 

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Originally Posted by Nericus View Post
It could also be that the coding for bases is a tangled train wreck that cannot be sorted out and should be scrapped and replaced. Problem with THAT is that many groups could lose their well built bases and need to rebuild them from scratch using whatever new tools are implemented.
If you were a dev and said that, I would then believe that our comatose patient has hope to one day make a recovery. That being said, your not a dev. And life support is still hooked up to our patient. And were left still hoping for someone to come in and check on it.


 

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The folks that keep their loved ones on life support for years even though there is no chance for recovery, just can't let go. I will still play with bases whenever things are stale but to keep it alive is just mean, I have decided to pull the plug on the old man. It is time! I will continue to hope for new life, but now is a time for mourning.


 

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Originally Posted by unjust View Post
If you were a dev and said that, I would then believe that our comatose patient has hope to one day make a recovery. That being said, your not a dev. And life support is still hooked up to our patient. And were left still hoping for someone to come in and check on it.
What I said was sheer speculation. For all we know ish 20 may have a surprise for bases....or not.

Now if GR included a base revamp that would have been nice.


 

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I know. I am only trying to express my sadness and disappointment I have over the base issue. I would be VERY pleased to hear a developer even so much as say ,"were looking at bases". We don't even get that. I don't mean to sound bitter about this, but the lack of interest in bases from the dev's saddens me because i have fun working on my base.

As for Issue 20 and a surprise for bases. That, would indeed be nice.


 

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I know. I am only trying to express my sadness and disappointment I have over the base issue. I would be VERY pleased to hear a developer even so much as say ,"were looking at bases". We don't even get that. I don't mean to sound bitter about this, but the lack of interest in bases from the dev's saddens me because i have fun working on my base.

As for Issue 20 and a surprise for bases. That, would indeed be nice.
Yes, some red name mention of bases would be nice. Increasing salvage bins beyond the limit of 30 would be nicer. I fondly remember the days of having hundreds of items in them.


 

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Originally Posted by PhantomRanger View Post
So I just saw stacker say that he was done messing with his bases because he is bored with it. He has taught so many of us so much. I feel that this truely means the end of our hope for improvement. Good Bye my beloved sub-game, you have been ignored to death. You will be missed.
It is over?!?! Really?!?!? I mean..... really?!?!?

If I was a dev who's full time job it was to promote, develop, create etc. CoX, I would look at the drama class posts in this section of the forums over the last [insert dramatic time frame here] and cry a little inside..... then laugh, alot.... then log in to my bank's website and pay some legitimate bills like power, rent, water.... and call my significant other tell them I'll be late because they have to put in extra time to redevelop a portion of the game that works fine but has a small following which is willing to sacrifice a much larger potential player base that makes much more use of new content, end game content, new zones, etc. etc. etc. because it wouldn't be in that larger player base's and hence the devs interest to keep a happier larger player base.... well, happier... and by proxy keep their jobs.

But yeah now I guess I totally see how it's over!


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I have had PM's from Noble Savage and War Witch that both basically said we know bases need attention. But keep on waiting and we'll might eventually get to it. But guess what still nothing. Last Post, yes there are other things that I want to see in this game besides a revamp of bases. But there are a lot of us here that have spent thousands of hours building bases. When the biggest name "stacker" hangs it up because of getting tired of waiting, it is over. There was only Johnny Unitas, one Babe Ruth, and one Micheal Jordan. stacker was that to the base community.


 

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All efforts without developer interest are nothing more than a distraction.

That is clear and THAT is what's over.

We aren't playing the "here, stay busy and make another list/thread" game anymore.

The Base Builders can only wait for a base reddy to get hired.

End of line.


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I'll still keep tinkering with the bases I manage... but I'm done waiting, hoping and wishing. I've even reached the point that I honestly stopped caring that the sudden "lack of apparent interest" on our part, as base builders, can be construed by the devs as a license to stop paying even the already non-existent attention they do to the issue. I care so little now that I don't even care if any of THEM care.


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It's unfortunate that an area of this game with so much potential has been completely ignored. Bases could really be something great. Look what's been done with the tools we have currently. It is sad when players who are so passionate about bases decide to throw in the towel. I suppose it is to be expected. The current system really does need to be re-evaluated.

I think an improvement to this system can only be good for this game as a whole. There may only be a small percentage of the playerbase who are base builders, but it is my opinion that there is a larger percentage who use bases, and improvements to bases can include new content


 

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My last real hope died (slowly) when they took the Silver Mantis SF (I am mostly redside) away from being an exclusive Mission Computer SF... and then never replaced it with anything on either side... AFTER telling us that we should hang onto the Mission Computer.

At that point, I finally started seeing all the lies for what they were.


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Originally Posted by unjust View Post
If you were a dev and said that, I would then believe that our comatose patient has hope to one day make a recovery. That being said, your not a dev. And life support is still hooked up to our patient. And were left still hoping for someone to come in and check on it.
Life support may be hooked up but it is WE who pay for the hospital room/services.


 

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base builders check this out:


Hi! I have been in touch with some representatives of the Base Building Community but forum PMs aren't necessarily the best way to interact with your committee. I currently have the leads for the Player Event Ressource Committee and European Event Resource Committeeon instant messaging and would like to extend this to you. If you haven't decided on who would best represent your interests, I strongly advise that you take this opportunity to do it so I can communicate with him or her via IM.

I hope this helps with supporting your initiatives more adequately.

Thank you,

Avatea


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we all needs to get in the base forum and starrrrt talkin nao.


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Originally Posted by Aquila_NA View Post
Life support may be hooked up but it is WE who pay for the hospital room/services.
Exactly. But the dev's being the doctors, have decided to do nothing but leave our poor bases in it's comatose state. We have offered them many ways of which to make us have hope. Sadly we haven't seen any. Thats leads me to one sad conclusion. And I have expressed that already.

I'll continue to visit my base, and maybe even tinker a bit on it. But without anything new added it just doesn't hold my interests like it used to.


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base builders check this out:


Hi! I have been in touch with some representatives of the Base Building Community but forum PMs aren't necessarily the best way to interact with your committee. I currently have the leads for the Player Event Ressource Committee and European Event Resource Committeeon instant messaging and would like to extend this to you. If you haven't decided on who would best represent your interests, I strongly advise that you take this opportunity to do it so I can communicate with him or her via IM.

I hope this helps with supporting your initiatives more adequately.

Thank you,
Wasn't this already done? I thought someone had been in contact with the dev's?


 

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we all needs to get in the base forum and starrrrt talkin nao.
Again...


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Originally Posted by unjust View Post
Exactly. But the dev's being the doctors, have decided to do nothing but leave our poor bases in it's comatose state. We have offered them many ways of which to make us have hope. Sadly we haven't seen any. Thats leads me to one sad conclusion. And I have expressed that already.

I'll continue to visit my base, and maybe even tinker a bit on it. But without anything new added it just doesn't hold my interests like it used to.




Wasn't this already done? I thought someone had been in contact with the dev's?
That post is two days old.

I haven't seen anyone else responding to it yet.

It's still kind of fresh, what do you think we should do?


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Again...
As far as making these lists and starting these wishful thinking threads, yeah, I'm done with that. I think we all are.

As far as keeping the lines of communication open I am all for that. I would hope that still generates interest.

It's better than silence.


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I'm still waking up, but I have to admit that seeing Avatea contact the BBC and ask about better communication options with them is rekindling my hopes. And really, I think there are things that could be done that would benefit base builders and SG members alike.

Wentworth/Black Market terminals, tailors, difficulty adjusters, trainers, and some target dummies like the ones in the RWZ Vanguard HQ immediately spring to mind. Allowing various task/strike forces to be formed at the mission computer, in addition to potentially giving it an AE interface option would also be awesome. All of those are available elsewhere in the game, but having them all in one SG base would be convenient. Instead of trying to run from, say, Mercy Island to Cap au Diable to make costume changes as a lowbie, you could swing by your SG base and even grab some inspirations for your next mission while you're there. And with those targeting dummies you could even test out your power customization without hoofing it in search of some street mob to blast.

We need more things that serve to bring SG members together (or benefit the solo/small SG), and a well-equipped base with new amenities (and even some new decorative bits!) could very well assist with that.


 

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Originally Posted by MrHassenpheffer View Post
As far as making these lists and starting these wishful thinking threads, yeah, I'm done with that. I think we all are.

As far as keeping the lines of communication open I am all for that. I would hope that still generates interest.

It's better than silence.
You have been very active in this community, so I nominate you sir and stacker.


 

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What ever I can do to help, I am willing to give whatever spare time that I have. I have broken all kinds of bases so I know the limits of them. Making new lists the bunny is correct, we have made what if lists for years now and we are at the point where we are repeating our self’s. As someone with bases and the community in mind all I want is to see some kind of attention to bases, and for people that say bases are but a small part of the game...park your but out side a base portal...any portal any server and see the traffic coming and going and i will show you bases are being used for something....don’t know what but people are going in and out.


 

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I'm making it known that the BBC needs to recruit more members for the base builders forums, it would help to let it be known that -you- <as in any base builder reading this> has interest in joining.

Strength in numbers.


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