The amount by which your defense drops won't depend on any other concealment powers you're running. When you attack, are damaged, or click on a mission object, you will lose 3.75% melee/ranged and 37.5% AoE defense (adjust those numbers up if you have put defense enhancement into Hide). You can either subtract that from the total shown by Mids with Hide turned on, or turn Hide off and add 1.875% defense(all), which is the amount of defense that won't suppress from Hide.
You can also edit the Mid's database. It's in the menus somewhere. Find Hide for your stalker secondary and cut out all the lines that mention "suppressed". Something like that.
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In Mids, click on Options -> Configuration, that brings up a tabbed menu. Go to the tab labeled "Effects & Maths" and look at the column (on the right) labeled "Suppression." Now click the box next to "Attacked." Now Mids is set to display your totals using the suppressed values for Hide, Stealth, etc.
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Yeah, that's a relatively new things. Older versions didn't have it, and I made a habit of editing the database after every update. But Hide's defense value while suppressed is 1.875% (as is Stealth's).|
Originally Posted by Eislor
In Mids, click on Options -> Configuration, that brings up a tabbed menu. Go to the tab labeled "Effects & Maths" and look at the column (on the right) labeled "Suppression." Now click the box next to "Attacked." Now Mids is set to display your totals using the suppressed values for Hide, Stealth, etc.
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Also, yes Hide will stack with Stealth, Invisibility, Grant Invisibility, Group Invisibility, Arctic Fog, Steamy Mist, Shadow Fall, stealth IOs, and every other source of grantable or personal stealth that I know of that a Stalker gets. Outside of PvP or specific custom mobs in AE missions, this is pretty much meaningless - any mob that can see you through Hide's 150' PvE stealth radius ignores stealth no matter what level it is.
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One question, does Vengeance buff perception? If so, there is exactly one situation in PvE where one enemy could see past 150' without being one of the ones that ignore stealth outright. Nemesis Snipers that are hit with Vengeance from their dead LTs.
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Originally Posted by Siolfir
Outside of PvP or specific custom mobs in AE missions, this is pretty much meaningless - any mob that can see you through Hide's 150' PvE stealth radius ignores stealth no matter what level it is.
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Originally Posted by Zamuel
One question, does Vengeance buff perception? If so, there is exactly one situation in PvE where one enemy could see past 150' without being one of the ones that ignore stealth outright. Nemesis Snipers that are hit with Vengeance from their dead LTs.
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I did try to beat their perception though.....i once was able to beat the drones....but the drones got an upgrade....
oh and things that phase now see you too....like master illusionists..but they have to be facing you it seams.....whihc i think is a very interesting addition and twist to how stealth works.
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Yes they can, but not by the usual means. They can see anything within their perception range, whether it's stealthed or not. So the trick is to debuff their Perception, rather than to buff your stealth.|
Originally Posted by PsychicKitty
drones and sisters of artemis cannot be hidden from.
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Something else to note is that they can be placated from outside of their detection range.
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Player Vengeance doesn't buff perception, and while I don't know for certain that it's doesn't buff perception for Nemesis mobs I would assume that to be the case. I suppose I could go check with my DP/MM/Munitions Blaster, since she has Surveillance, but that's too much like research and I'm lazy.|
Originally Posted by Zamuel
One question, does Vengeance buff perception? If so, there is exactly one situation in PvE where one enemy could see past 150' without being one of the ones that ignore stealth outright. Nemesis Snipers that are hit with Vengeance from their dead LTs.
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And yes, Placating things or debuffing their perception can allow you to bypass things even if they do see through stealth. The essential gist of my post was to explain that unless you PvP, there really is no need to stack Hide with other layers of stealth - if it sees through Hide, it'll see through whatever else you stack with it.
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All Im going off of is Mids, have never played a stalker and intend to start a Kin/Ninjitsu one on Friday... It says that Hide stacks with other concealment powers... like Stealth in the concealment pool? also I know that when you come out of hiding your defense goes down, by how much? (taking into account stealth above, if possible)