PvP +3 def IO level


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So... after much ado, I've finally saved enough A-merits to buy one of these overpriced little gems.

Before I drop all those hard won merits, I had a question:

Does anyone know of any reason NOT to buy this at it's minimum level (level 30) to make it that little bit easier if I ever feel like actually leveling a build with it?

If there's any exemping/derating effect, it's clearly better to get this at level 50.

I know the steadfast equivalent has no such derating, but given just how much this damn thing costs, I figure I should double or even quadruple check.

Thanks for any info!


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The only potential problem I can think of would be if you wanted to sell it on the market (which I doubt you do) because stuff often sells for more at max level.

With something like this though, my understanding is that with A-merits, getting it at level 10 is the done thing for precisely the reasons you mention.


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Yep. And given the rarified market for these, I think you are likely to find people who really don't give a damn what level it is. If you can find someone in the know, they may actually pay you more for a minimum level one. That is what tends to happen with pool C stuff that follows these rules - the sale rate is lower, but the price you can get is generally higher.


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Thanks for the replies. Sounds like I may as well go for minimum level.

With regards to selling, I don't PLAN on ever selling this thing but...

Never say never I guess. It's a minor concern whatever the case.


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w/ the PVPIOs the lvl is irrelevant when it comes to the special IOs. Even though it may be a global, it is not limited by its level like regular globals.


 

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Originally Posted by Spiritchaser View Post
Does anyone know of any reason NOT to buy this at it's minimum level (level 30) to make it that little bit easier if I ever feel like actually leveling a build with it?
I just double-checked, and as I suspected, the minimum level isn't 30 - it's 10.

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If there's any exemping/derating effect, it's clearly better to get this at level 50.
If it was affected by exemplaring, it would be better to get it at low level - a level 50 set bonus is lost far quicker than a level 10 set bonus.

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I know the steadfast equivalent has no such derating, but given just how much this damn thing costs, I figure I should double or even quadruple check.
The Steadfast actually does get affected by exemplaring. If you exemplar more than 3 levels below the level of the IO, it ceases to provide its defense bonus, and the resistance portion is a standard enhancement value, so it scales down as you exemplar, unless it's below the Minor Bonus Threshold.

PVP IOs and Purples both follow the same rules: The enhancement values scale down as you exemplar, just like any other enhancement, but the set bonuses (including one-piece set bonuses like the one you're asking about) remain while exemplared to any level.

For more detailed information, see this page on the wiki.


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You know, I knew PvPOs didn't care about exemplar, but for some reason I never made the connection that would mean the level of this thing wouldn't matter.


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American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA

 

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Originally Posted by UberGuy View Post
You know, I knew PvPOs didn't care about exemplar, but for some reason I never made the connection that would mean the level of this thing wouldn't matter.
the level would only matter if you wanted to slot it on a low level character.


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Level 10 is best.

You can slot it sooner, and there isn't any 'enhancement value' to the IO, it only gives "tp protection" and the nice 3%def bonus.


 

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Originally Posted by The_Masque View Post
Level 10 is best.

You can slot it sooner, and there isn't any 'enhancement value' to the IO, it only gives "tp protection" and the nice 3%def bonus.
Masque needs it so he can slot on his lvl 7 fiteklubber. I seended it.



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