When did Tough become Resist (All)?


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Rather than just Smashing/Lethal?


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Only in PvP.

Tough is Smash/Lethal resistance in PvE, but it becomes resist (all) in PvP.

If you're looking at it from Mid's - switch your PvE/PvP flag or else you'll be really confused about your end result numbers from all over the place.


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It didn't, in PvE. It sounds like you're looking at PvP values for it.


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Actually, I was looking at it in-game while respeccing (for Inherent Fitness). All it listed was +15% Resist (All). I assumed the game's info was correct and decided to get Boxing in there to get Tough later at level 50, if it's just S/L I'm going to regret that decision. ;P


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Originally Posted by Tenzhi View Post
Actually, I was looking at it in-game while respeccing (for Inherent Fitness). All it listed was +15% Resist (All). I assumed the game's info was correct and decided to get Boxing in there to get Tough later at level 50, if it's just S/L I'm going to regret that decision. ;P
In PvE, it is just against S/L damage. You were probably looking at the PvP values in-game.


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looking at the detailed info;

Code:
TOUGH
Toggle: self +res(smash/lethal)
[...]
17.68% resistance to all damage on self
unresistable
and combat attributes shows applying it to smash and lethal only.

so - nothings changed, but I can see how one might be misled by the detailed info.


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Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn View Post
In PvE, it is just against S/L damage. You were probably looking at the PvP values in-game.
No, I don't even have Show PvP Effects turned on in the Details (in the Management/Respec screen). The only buff listed in the Details in-game is resistance to all damage on self. Were it properly displayed, then, it should have two buffs listed - one specifically for smashing and one for lethal.

Alas, that will teach me to trust the Details.


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Farewell is like the end
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And there you'll always be
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I was wondering about this myself recently. Noticed the same thing for patron shields as well. I don't look at PvP values, I could give 2 shakes of a dead rat about PvP.


 

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Tough is (incorrectly) listed in its pop-up as "Resist(All)". However, several powers do this too (Temp Invulnerability, at least the Field Mastery version, is the same), and all of them are Smashing/Lethal. If you see Resist(All), assume it's actually Smashing/Lethal. I don't think any power in the game actually gives resistance to everything (Sonic Dispersion, which gives resistance to almost everything, actually says "All but Psionics").


 

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Originally Posted by Eiko-chan View Post
I don't think any power in the game actually gives resistance to everything (Sonic Dispersion, which gives resistance to almost everything, actually says "All but Psionics").
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
Eclipse.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA MFing Warshade indeed.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
Eclipse.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA MFing Warshade indeed.
One of the reasons my WS has had by FAR the most time and Inf spent on him.

85% Resist all in Nova form is so much fun it's probably bad for me.


 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenzhi View Post
Actually, I was looking at it in-game while respeccing (for Inherent Fitness). All it listed was +15% Resist (All). I assumed the game's info was correct and decided to get Boxing in there to get Tough later at level 50, if it's just S/L I'm going to regret that decision. ;P
The Detailed Info on Tough(and most Epic armors) are erroneously showing the PvP stats for both PvP and PvE. They have for quite some time now. No telling when this would be fixed, especially with Castle's departure.


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