Champion Events Survey!

But you obviously took it personally enough to call Cherry a liar.

ahhh all the days i spent there instead of sitting in class.

i did not mind the feedback regarding the challenge. i didnt find it hurtful or offensive them saying they didnt like to participate in challenges set by others that they liked to do their own..


what is bothering me is the same handful of people, repeating over and over and over both here on the forums, and in game, that certain things have sucked when they themselves offer up no suggestions or ideas, and dont host or hold events themselves.

there IS a difference with these 2 instances.

I think I have hosted enough things to know that xy or z didnt like it and ab and c did. if i was that sensitive, i wouldnt continue to put myself out there hosting activities for the server.

I play the game to have fun, I come to events to hang out with others and have a good time. It seems that people won't like something, some will enjoy something else. No one is always happy, people will complain just to be a thorn in the side of others, and to get a reaction out of it. Can't we all just get along... PLEASE!!!

I was kind of hoping the group would be more of a help others put their own ideas into action than taking ideas from others. ( I don't mean "take" as in steal)

It just gives the impression that a core group of people would actually be doing events based on input from others. I don't believe that is the intention as I understand it this far.


I wouldn't take "naysaying" to much to heart, some people aren't sure what they like or want. Wedding Planners, Caterers and such go through the same thing. It can be frustrating for sure, but that is just how some people process data. It isn't lack of gratitude or character.

I would agree there are lots of people doing things for the wrong reason and I often find myself also thinking some people are more about the title and attention than actually doing good stuff for good people. That being said though I don't think that is a reason to not have an organized committee.

One of the suggestions I made when I filled out the survey was to have it open to every one, and every member be equal and have equal votes.

Every server has people running events with no committee or titles. It can be done, and has been done. That doesn't mean that Champion can't have some thing even better. An organization that is actually about the Champion Community, running events, and helping people run their events.

There are so many people with great ideas but no desire to run events. So many people wanting to run events but lacking in creativity to actually come up with them. So many people with deep pockets wanting to fund events but not wanting to run them. Having a website and a committee that actually put all of that together and made good stuff happen would be great.

Force's points in this post are valid though, some people are and will want to do it for recognition. That is part of life in all aspects and not just in a video game. That doesn't mean that things such as committees shouldn't exist, it just means the committee should be set up in such a way that those bottomfeeders don't have a foodsupply of attention to make them feel famous.

**On a side note there is nothing wrong with people wanting to feel appreciated for what they do. Lets not confuse wanting appreciation with being attention whores.

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Originally Posted by _Force_ PERC aside we already have an unofficial "core" group of folks on Champion who run events for the community as well as help out as much as they possibly can. They don't have titles. They don't have a specific group. And in general aren't looking for fame and glory when they go about it. Which is as it should be. In my own humble opinion on the matter, forming a group or committee as is being discussed here seems to simply give names, titles and the much needed glory that it would seem some people need in the community. Which isn't the way it should be. The people who should be forming up a group to help the community are the very people who think that the group to begin with isn't necessary. And while it may not be even remotely your intent or follow in your thought process it seems a note worthy topic. Yes, lets form up a committee and give ourselves titles so that we can be known and respected while the rest of the people who do just as much to help the community don't ask for anything or want anything aside from people enjoying themselves and bettering themselves in CoX. Now I'm not accusing anyone directly of being guilty of this, however it most certainly springs to mind.

@Kat: Great post! Well written and perfect to the point! I hope others will submit that type of feedback as well!

Yes, there is no finished product here. What I'm referring to is that the survey is presented based on a few assumptions that I disagree with.

For example, that there should be a form of leadership. If you have one person in charge, people will complain they're an autocrat. If you have a commitee, people will complain that their particular needs aren't represented. Or that progress is hindered by endless debate and voting. If you have a huge council, there's the problem of some people having more of a say than others and even more potential for argument resulting in stuff not getting done.

If there is no leadership (because it's not even really a formalized group) people will complaint that it's not organized. I'm okay with that, in the sense of you get out of it what you put in. Everyone equal, everyone gets as much say/representation as they want.

People will complain no matter what. With an open format, it falls to the community (as it should) to get stuff done. Hate something, change something.