Inherent Quizness


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Good thing you got fitness, because your brain's going to need it for this workout. I just pushed out another Sporcle quiz to amuse and delight you in between beatdowns on the shiny news in Paragon City. Ladies and gentlemen and... um... whatever it is that person in the corner is, I present:


Please note that there may be spoilers below, so for the full quiz experience, take it before reading the rest of the thread! If you find that fun and interesting, try out the others I've published also:

Some are gimmes, two or three are probably nigh impossible. Don't let that stop you, though. Give it a whirl, have fun, and let me know what you think!


We've been saving Paragon City for eight and a half years. It's time to do it one more time.
(If you love this game as much as I do, please read that post.)

 

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I got 15 of them, would have been 16 but I didn't include the . for vahz.

Was a fun little quiz though I thought Vanessa Devoure lead the carnies.


 

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18 out of 30. Some of these are a little obscure.


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27 out of 30. I only knew the "villain names" for the Skull leaders, so I couldn't get that one to register. I was looking for a different sort of leader for the Scrapyarders (nice tricky one there), and I couldn't remember how to spell the Igneous you listed. However, I don't think that character is necessarily their leader; in Manticore's Cannon Fodder thread, he gave the faction's leader as someone actually named Igneous.


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I got 15 of them, would have been 16 but I didn't include the . for vahz.

Was a fun little quiz though I thought Vanessa Devoure lead the carnies.
They both do. Giovanna's consciousness resides in the mask that Vanessa wears. They share, sorta, Vanessa's body.


 

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Ah, Tony... Tony Tony Tony. Irony it is, for you quiz people without knowing yourself all the answers to your questions. Therefore, to keep the public informed of the correct state of affairs in our world of super-powered politics, I shall correct your incorrect answers.

  • The Minions of Igneous are not led by Koago. He is simply one of them. Nay, they are led by a man named Ingelbert Maahs who is also known as, surprise surprise, Igneous. He was an Indiana Jones-esque character searching for the Cavern of Transcendence, but whose jealous "friend" Marcus Janssen tricked him and pushed him into the lava. Janssen promptly fled the scene, but Maahs did not die. He managed to crawl from the lava, and was later found by the Magmites. They healed him by imbuing him with their characteristic rock-flesh, and he later forsook his identity and became their leader. [Source]

  • There is no leader of the Family, per sé, as they have different hierarchies depending on where you look. In Paragon City, their operations are overseen by Sebastian Frost, who peddles Superadine to the Trolls among other things. In the Rogue Isles, there are two factions of the Family embraced in a tribalistic feud, warring against each other in a struggle for power. The leaders of the two groups are Guido Verandi and Emil Marcone. During the events of the City of Villains missions, Verandi is defeated by the player character.

  • Countess Crey is not actually Clarissa Van Dorn, but a woman named Julianne Thompson. Janet Kellum's story arc, The Evil Countess Crey outlines the events. Basically, you investigate a missing person's report for Julianne, and upon finding her dead body and taking a lock of her hair to Cadao Kestrel, learn that the body was not Julianne's, but that of Clarissa Van Dorn. The missing person hunt became a (wo)manhunt for a murderer, Julianne Thompson, who had stolen the identity of Countess Crey from Clarissa.

  • The 5th Column was once led by Requiem, but he was transferred into the ranks of the Council when they took over. Requiem's temporal shenanigans are still visible through the Imperious Task Force, but that version of Requiem was from a time earlier than his current Council allegiance [Source]. Instead, the 5th Column joined ranks with the inter-dimensional invaders Amerika Korps and now rally under the leadership of the Reichsman.

  • "The" Rularuu are currently and equally guided by the seven fragmented aspects of Rularuu the Ravager, who in his complete form does not currently exist. When the Midnight Squad created the Shadow Shard as a dimensional prison for Rularuu within his own mind, the Dream Doctor, through some undisclosed psychic bond with Rularuu and with use of the Psychic Cleaver, severed his mind, and with it, Rularuu himself.


 

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Good thing you got fitness, because your brain's going to need it for this workout. I just pushed out another Sporcle quiz to amuse and delight you in between beatdowns on the shiny news in Paragon City. Ladies and gentlemen and... um... whatever it is that person in the corner is, I present:
I like the idea, but the system is a bit... Unfair.

For one, Tub Chi seems to be recognised as "Tub Ci Tan," when I'm pretty sure he's listed as Tub Chi in NPC dialogue and "Tub Chi Tan" in that one Praetoria arc.

The Family's leader is listed as Emil Marcone, when that's the leader of the Marcone Family in the Rogue Isles. The leader of the Paragon City Family and the Family overall is cited as Sebastian Frost in that one mission where you have to rescue his nephew who squealed on him.

The leader of the Circle of Thorns is listed as Baron Zoria, when Zoria is actually just a man who found Oranbega and was possessed by the Circle, as evidenced by either the Library of Souls or Mu'Drakhan's arc where you find his soul locked in a crystal. According to Akharist, the Circle of Thorns itself is the ruling council of Oranbega, so I think they should be cited as the leaders.

The Malta leadership is cited as "The Council of Leaders" and that's the first of heard of that. Crimson cites their leadership as "The Directors" in his World Wide Red arc, which eventually has you face off against one of their leaders, Director 17 (I think it was 17).

I'm not saying all of these are "wrong" but they should probably be accepted answers.

*edit*
By the way, the entry for the leader of the Council accepts "Center" but does not accept "Centre"


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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

 

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Warning: Lots of spoilers below!

First of all, repeat to yourself (Guy...): It's just for fun. Don't get so worked up over it. If there's an answer that you feel justified is correct, just do what I do with some of the other quizzes: Make a mental note, "Hey, I got that one right!" It's not like I'm keeping a permanent record or, for that matter, can even tell who got what. If there is an answer you feel is justified, let me know about at and why, and if I think you're right, I'll add it as an acceptable answer.

Now, having said all of that...

The mechanics of the quiz allow multiple answers. I used people's "real names" as much as I could as the display answer, but I loaded it up with people's "villain" names as well. For example, for Arachnos, all but one person answered correctly. The display answer is "Stefan Richter," but I'm guessing no one actually typed that in. Most people probably typed "Lord Recluse" or some variation of that, and it takes that. I even added what I imagine would be some common misspellings of names. You should see how many variations of "Eochai" I put in. I apologize if I missed some (I didn't see "Devoure" coming, but if you had typed "DeVore," "DaVore," or even just "Vore," you would have nailed it). I've added Tub Chi, Centre, and even DeVour/DaVour as alterate spellings for those respective answers.

Which brings me to another point. When there are multiple names for someone or something, or answers I think are right, I try to capture that as much as possible. For example, there is an in-game reference to "Gyrfalcon" who is on the Council of Leaders who leads the Malta Operatives. If you type that in, it will give you credit for that answer, although it will show up as "Council of Leaders" when it displays. So if, after a quiz, you're thinking, "Technically, Julianne Thompson leads Crey after murdering Clarissa van Dorn!", hey, try punching it in because it might actually accept that as an answer. Julianne Thompson has been a legitimate answer since I created this quiz just in case someone did.

I wanted to talk about sourcing for a second. In the quiz, it says at the top, "Source: Paragon Wiki." That's where I'm getting these answers. According to the Paragon Wiki, it says on Requiem's page, "He was originally the leader of the 5th Column and seems to have resumed his post as of late." Now keep in mind that I don't have a lot of time to run these task forces personally to validate all of the answers, so to some extent, I'm just trusting that whoever made that edit knows what they're talking about. If it's just plain wrong, let me know and cite why you think it's wrong, and if you make a compelling argument, I'll add the answer as a valid one. (And while you're at it, correct the Paragon Wiki, including your citation!)

As for the Minions of Igneous, if there's more than one answer that's justifiable as correct, I'm not going to rule out a "wrong" answer just because someone thinks that one answer is more "right" than another. In-game, one of Sam Wincott's diary entries says that "Koago" means "leader." That's compelling enough for me to consider that at least a--if not THE--correct answer. He's clearly considered by the Igneous in the game as a leader. Given the link to Manticore's post, I've also added Inglebert Maahs and Igneous as AN answer. Reading Manticore's post, it sounds like Maahs is Koago.

Regarding Rularuu the Ravager, read the article. There's no indication in it that Rularuu is dead or isn't still, at least on some level, the leader of the Rularuu. Maybe later I'll add the names of the aspects as correct answers.

I'll ponder Baron Zoria later; right now I've got to go to work. I definitely consider him at least a leader of the Circle of Thorns, though, and I don't know of anyone else who could be considered his equal in that role. If we knew the name of whoever it was that inhabited his body, I'd add that as an answer too (kind of like Scaldi/DeVore), but as far as I know, we don't.


We've been saving Paragon City for eight and a half years. It's time to do it one more time.
(If you love this game as much as I do, please read that post.)

 

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So if, after a quiz, you're thinking, "Technically, Julianne Thompson leads Crey after murdering Clarissa van Dorn!", hey, try punching it in because it might actually accept that as an answer. Julianne Thompson has been a legitimate answer since I created this quiz just in case someone did.
Yet Clarissa Van Dorn continues to be incorrect. That's my point. She's dead.


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Now keep in mind that I don't have a lot of time to run these task forces personally to validate all of the answers, so to some extent, I'm just trusting that whoever made that edit knows what they're talking about.
Allow me to introduce you to the twelve-step program. (-:


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If it's just plain wrong, let me know and cite why you think it's wrong, and if you make a compelling argument, I'll add the answer as a valid one. (And while you're at it, correct the Paragon Wiki, including your citation!)
Now now, I can't go turning the wiki into Guy Perfect's Library of Infallibly Correct Information. Gotta leave some fun for everyone else!

Though I do like how you cleverly dodged the whole "remove incorrect answers" part. (-:


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Reading Manticore's post, it sounds like Maahs is Koago.
Koago is a Pumicite, not a Magmite. When I think of what Igneous would look like, I envision a sort of Magmite-human hybrid not unlike Dr. Vahzilok or Noble Savage.

"Koago" may very well mean "leader" in... uh... Magmitian... But I wouldn't count that as evidence towards him being the king and ruler over all. For example, King Thunder is described as a leader of the Warriors without being the leader. To an unwary reader, the mission almost makes it sound like he is the leader.


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Regarding Rularuu the Ravager, read the article. There's no indication in it that Rularuu is dead or isn't still, at least on some level, the leader of the Rularuu.
Sure there is; plenty; if you do the mission content in the game. Lanaruu, for instance, is so crazy that he managed to isolate himself from the rest of the Shadow Shard. Faathim lives in a fortified stronghold, since the forces of the other aspects are actively trying to destroy him.

Tell me this: if you were in control of seven distinct pieces of yourself, would you send one to exist on its own and send five others to kill the one that remains?


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I'll ponder Baron Zoria later; right now I've got to go to work. I definitely consider him at least a leader of the Circle of Thorns, though, and I don't know of anyone else who could be considered his equal in that role. If we knew the name of whoever it was that inhabited his body, I'd add that as an answer too (kind of like Scaldi/DeVore), but as far as I know, we don't.
Baron Zoria, originally, was a man not possessed by an Oranbegan spirit. He's stated as showing up in England in the 1890's with an interest in the arcane and collected a group of followers in a search for the lost city of Oranbega. The city, long since destroyed and submerged beneath the earth, was all that was left of the Oranbegans after their demise in the war against the Mu.

The Oranbegans knew their dark art, and they had prepared Spirit Thorns: demonic barbs taken from the Thorn Tree in Nerva Archipelago. Under the false pretenses that thrusting one such Spirit Thorn through one's heart would bestow the... thruster... with unimaginable magical power, Baron Zoria and his followers unwittingly offered themselves as hosts for the Oranbegan spirits, for the Spirit Thorns bridged the gap between the living and the unliving.

Thus marked the death and possession of Baron Zoria, and the founding of the Circle of Thorns. This event happened on December 21, 1898, the winter solstice of that year.

The name of the Oranbegan spirit now known as Baron Zoria has never been specified.


 

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Countess Crey is not actually Clarissa Van Dorn, but a woman named Julianne Thompson.
Certainly true, but "Clarissa van Dorn" is the name she goes by. The quiz does accept "Countess Crey" (...actually, just "Countess" was enough), and I checked "Julianne Thompson" and I think it was accepted, but I don't remember.

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For one, Tub Chi seems to be recognised as "Tub Ci Tan," when I'm pretty sure he's listed as Tub Chi in NPC dialogue and "Tub Chi Tan" in that one Praetoria arc.
I've only ever seen it as "Tub Ci."

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By the way, the entry for the leader of the Council accepts "Center" but does not accept "Centre"
Nor does it accept "Paolo Tirelli," which is his real name.


 

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[*]The 5th Column was once led by Requiem, but he was transferred into the ranks of the Council when they took over. Requiem's temporal shenanigans are still visible through the Imperious Task Force, but that version of Requiem was from a time earlier than his current Council allegiance [Source]. Instead, the 5th Column joined ranks with the inter-dimensional invaders Amerika Korps and now rally under the leadership of the Reichsman.
That would make some of the TFs (imperious and 5th) make more sense, but I don't understand where you get that from the source which doesn't say anything about it.


A game is not supposed to be some kind of... place where people enjoy themselves!

 

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Look closely at Arakhn's e-mail to Requiem. "You had plans only for temporal power within this world, I had plans to change this world forever and make it a new home for our kind." The Imperious Task Force touches on Requiem's "temporal strongholds," such as the one he attempted to set up in Cimerora. As the e-mail shows, Requiem's antics in the time stream came to an end when the Council took over.

The e-mails exchanged between Arakhn and Requiem in the Kheldian arcs are just as chock full of intrigue as the letter writer in Ouroboros. I highly recommend everyone to look into them.