APP access on a hero SoA


Come Undone

 

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Ok, so I make a wolf spider build, and migrate it to heroside, full hero. I then level up to 41, and viola, no APP access. Does this actually mean I have to move him back to villain and do a damned patron arc?

You know, the devs hating villains is something of a cliche, but who knew they hated ex-villains as well?


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No, because you won't have access to them either way. Soldiers don't get APPs.


 

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Originally Posted by Rock_Crag View Post
No, because you won't have access to them either way. Soldiers don't get APPs.
They only get PPPs? I know you can get patron sets.


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They only get Patrons, and yeah, I'm pretty sure you have to go villain and run an arc.


 

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Oh well, I guess I'll just have to figure out a build without them. I never even thought to check and has been planning on some of the endurance boosting APPs powers.


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Yeah it's too bad they don't get access to the APPs, superior conditioning and physical perfection would be great one-slot powers for PS procs (assuming they'd get the brute's APPs).

I've always wondered if their choice to lock out VEATs from the hero pools was thematic (you break ties with Arachnos so not sure why this would be), done purposely for some reason (maybe the regen and recovery values would be over the top for physical perfection with the conditioning inherent) of just simply an oversight. Would be a nice option to have regardless.


 

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They should be allowed to take the APPs if only because they get access to the Patron powers.


Branching Paragon Police Department Epic Archetype, please!

 

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The reason SoAs don't get APPs is for some sort of parity with kheldians which don't get access to APPs *or* PPPs.


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Originally Posted by Come Undone View Post
The reason SoAs don't get APPs is for some sort of parity with kheldians which don't get access to APPs *or* PPPs.
I believe for both of them, the forced origin and heavily restricted power sets are a result of a predefined source of power.

My longer explanation of this can be found here, on a similar thread.

In that post I said the source of power was "heavily implied." That was an undercooked argument. The source of power is explicit. The Epics available to EATs are consistent with the game lore. It'd be more surprising if they were anyway other than how they are now.

Here's the whole thread, just in case anyone's interested.


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