Perma Domination


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So, with the new Alpha slot that can give a 45% recharge bonus to all powers with 2/3 ignoring DR... will perma-Domination be possible again?


 

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Originally Posted by NerfKiller View Post
So, with the new Alpha slot that can give a 45% recharge bonus to all powers with 2/3 ignoring DR... will perma-Domination be possible again?
perma dom is already possible with sets (its quite common actually), and the alpha boost will not be able to affect domination


 

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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master View Post
perma dom is already possible with sets (its quite common actually), and the alpha boost will not be able to affect domination
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About how much global recharge is needed to achieve perma-domination then?


 

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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master View Post
perma dom is already possible with sets (its quite common actually), and the alpha boost will not be able to affect domination
In PvE sure, in PvP no. Since I13 and DR you would have to seriously gimp your toon to get to the 190ish percent recharge which is about what it would take to have Permadom in PvP. And really it isnt what it was, now it is a sec. or 2 longer hold and a free end bar filler.


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I'm not sure but I had a Mind/Psi that I used to use for MoLRSFs that had perma dom with 208.75% global recharge and all I could get was one revolution out domination in PvP just to see if I could. I mean in PvE I could use Domination on auto without Hasten and go AFK and still have it going when I got back with a cup of coffee. Kinda regret stripping that toon thinking about it =(


 

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Originally Posted by Psyrene View Post
In PvE sure, in PvP no. Since I13 and DR you would have to seriously gimp your toon to get to the 190ish percent recharge which is about what it would take to have Permadom in PvP. And really it isnt what it was, now it is a sec. or 2 longer hold and a free end bar filler.
i kind of assumed they are the same, how is it not possible in pvp? im guessing the bonuses are subject to more DR than normal, but if you would enlighten me that would be great

(if you havent already figured it out, i know very little about the intrinsics of pvp but im not opposed to learning)


 

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Set bonuses, enhancements, even Alpha slots not subject to Enhancement Diversification are all still subject to Diminishing Returns.

Diminishing returns is subtracted from the SUM of all the totals, not from only 1 thing or another, so what Psyrene is trying to get at is that just because you have more sets, or a bit of a curve on Enhancement diversification, or even global alpha slot reduction, the sum of the totals of all your recharge bonuses are at the very end subtracted by Diminishing returns.

That is why he is saying it takes upward of 190% recharge or something. Because in PvE, Enhancement Diversification is the only factor that effects enhancements directly. While as we know, set bonuses are untouched, but in PvP they are.


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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master View Post
i kind of assumed they are the same, how is it not possible in pvp? im guessing the bonuses are subject to more DR than normal, but if you would enlighten me that would be great

(if you havent already figured it out, i know very little about the intrinsics of pvp but im not opposed to learning)
Diminishing returns in PvP makes the recharge numbers go down a significant amount. Same with everything else except for hp basically.


 

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Originally Posted by Xury2 View Post
Set bonuses, enhancements, even Alpha slots not subject to Enhancement Diversification are all still subject to Diminishing Returns.

Diminishing returns is subtracted from the SUM of all the totals, not from only 1 thing or another, so what Psyrene is trying to get at is that just because you have more sets, or a bit of a curve on Enhancement diversification, or even global alpha slot reduction, the sum of the totals of all your recharge bonuses are at the very end subtracted by Diminishing returns.

That is why he is saying it takes upward of 190% recharge or something. Because in PvE, Enhancement Diversification is the only factor that effects enhancements directly. While as we know, set bonuses are untouched, but in PvP they are.
what he said. Sorry, haven't checked this thread out since I posted, didn't see that you had asked why.


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