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"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
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Not sure if you can read, but not what I asked. Thanks for trying. |
Originally Posted by macskull
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I liked my em/elec...
in issue 8. Reroll >_>
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I did read. I also noticed that you said your build lacked kick, which unfortunately isn't going to be solved by throwing any amount of inf at the problem. EM is a subpar melee set on anything other than Stalkers (and not even then, really), and Elec used to be okay but now it's only really good if you duel lots of Therms.|
Originally Posted by RawrItsIso
Not sure if you can read, but not what I asked. Thanks for trying.
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You wanted build help, you got it. Sorry it wasn't the answer you were looking for.
@macskull, @Not Mac | XBL: macskull | Steam: macskull | Skype: macskull
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
Telling someone to reroll and "helping" them with their build ain't the same thang.
If you don't know how to add more +dam to an EM/Elec build just say so.
If you do... be helpful.
It's shameful that build help is available only if the set/set combo meets approval.
"Situational power? Sure. Although in a sense... all powers are situational. It's just that some situations occur more than others." Understand the situation needed in order for the power to be most effective... and make that situation happen.
1. Protip: building for +dam on a Brute is next to useless. They have a low damage modifier, DR eats damage bonuses pretty badly, and even though Fury is quite sad in PvP it still contributes a little (especially with the fix for Fury generation on player targets).
2. He said his build lacked punch. I told him that was because of his powersets, not because of how he built it. EM's one of the worst possible primaries for Brutes (post-Energy Transfer nerf but especially post-I13) and Elec Armor is merely passable unless you're fighting Therms or Energy Blasters (lol), where it's pretty nice.
3. I know full well how to build for +dam on a Brute (or anything else, for that matter). It's really not hard - grab some Makos and ToD for melee sets, Devas for ranged, I could go on - but in doing so you're either going to have to skimp in areas that actually matter (HP, recharge, acc, even KB protection in the case of /Elec) or make a really really expensive build, to which there is no point.
4. Stop pretending that no one here wants to give build help. Like my earlier post said, the answer you get won't always be the one you want, but that's reality. I'm more than happy to pass out builds, but when the OP himself says the build is lacking punch, and I notice the powersets he's using, I'm going to save him some headaches and likely wasted inf by being upfront and not sugarcoating.
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"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
Hi rawr, it's absolute
I tried an EM/EA brute once, put a few billion in it, and it failed. Stripped and deleted. EM's damage really isn't that good. ET and TF is alright against squishies but against won't do too much against anything melee. I don't think i've ever seen a good EM melee, except a tank, but that was back a few years, either when i wasn't very good or pre ET nerf.
The only way i could see this working is aiming for a bit of +acc and taking the Mu mastery. Hit them with some Mu attacks, use power sink and summon the Mu pet. And have taunt incase they go after the pet.
EM/Ele/fitness/speed/fighting/medicine/mu
I could see that working a bit, drain people's end with Mu lighting/Electric fences/Pet/power sink while using aid self to stay alive long enough. That's basically going to be my tactic once my ss/ele hits 50, he's only 42. GL with it
@Sentry4 @Sentry 4
PvP Redux is discontinued, for obvious reasons. Thanks to everyone who helped and joined.
i tried this same build with a tank....and it was full of failure.
these guys know what there talking about.
50 fire/dev--50 dark/thug--50 earth/storm--50 fire/regen--50 earth/thorn--50 kin/rad
50 TA/archery--50 stone/mace--50 Rad/em--50 Cold/Energy--48 dark/elec--50 grav/rad--45 SOA--40 PB--46 Bs/Fire--50 Ar/Dev--50 Trapz/Dark--50 elec/em tank--50 elec/earth--50 Ghostwidow--50 elec/Therm--50 cold/dark
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lol aid self on an elec|
Originally Posted by Sentry4
Hi rawr, it's absolute
I tried an EM/EA brute once, put a few billion in it, and it failed. Stripped and deleted. EM's damage really isn't that good. ET and TF is alright against squishies but against won't do too much against anything melee. I don't think i've ever seen a good EM melee, except a tank, but that was back a few years, either when i wasn't very good or pre ET nerf. The only way i could see this working is aiming for a bit of +acc and taking the Mu mastery. Hit them with some Mu attacks, use power sink and summon the Mu pet. And have taunt incase they go after the pet. EM/Ele/fitness/speed/fighting/medicine/mu I could see that working a bit, drain people's end with Mu lighting/Electric fences/Pet/power sink while using aid self to stay alive long enough. That's basically going to be my tactic once my ss/ele hits 50, he's only 42. GL with it |
If you're going to be dueling on a Brute, you take either Mace Mastery or Earth Mastery. It really is that simple.
(This is the guy that lost a no-inspires duel against a Blaster on an SS/Fire Brute with Aid Self, so following his build advice is usually a really bad idea.)
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"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
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Hm. I can get why you'd take Earth Mastery, the immob and hold end up doing some decent damage because of their cast times right? Why Mace Mastery? You get Focused Accuracy in that, I guess?|
Originally Posted by macskull
lol aid self on an elec
If you're going to be dueling on a Brute, you take either Mace Mastery or Earth Mastery. It really is that simple. (This is the guy that lost a no-inspires duel against a Blaster on an SS/Fire Brute with Aid Self, so following his build advice is usually a really bad idea.) |
What's the general consensus on decent brute secondaries anyways? I'd put my bet on /fire. I can't really think of anything else aside maybe /willpower? Except WP has that useless toggle. What about primaries dueling wise? SS seems okay, with Rage I guess you could forgo Mace Mastery and pick up Earth in its place since you really wouldn't need FA that bad then.
If so, and it's not a good idea to be building up damage sets, then what? +hp/rech/accuracy, and I generally don't go balls deep for purples so would you say Crushing Impacts are a good general set for melee attacks? Tit Coatings for res powers for +Hp and so on? I'd reckon Alpha slot for the Recharge boost would be rather handy.
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Originally Posted by Arkterus
Why Mace Mastery?
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solo pvp?
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1. Fossilize is stupidly good, especially when powered by Rage, and is pretty much the only reason to go Earth. Mace is good for webnades (so you aren't limited to 6 uses or whatever the arena temp gives you), and FA is helpful for hitting high-defense/elusivity characters.|
Originally Posted by Arkterus
Hm. I can get why you'd take Earth Mastery, the immob and hold end up doing some decent damage because of their cast times right? Why Mace Mastery? You get Focused Accuracy in that, I guess?
What's the general consensus on decent brute secondaries anyways? I'd put my bet on /fire. I can't really think of anything else aside maybe /willpower? Except WP has that useless toggle. What about primaries dueling wise? SS seems okay, with Rage I guess you could forgo Mace Mastery and pick up Earth in its place since you really wouldn't need FA that bad then. If so, and it's not a good idea to be building up damage sets, then what? +hp/rech/accuracy, and I generally don't go balls deep for purples so would you say Crushing Impacts are a good general set for melee attacks? Tit Coatings for res powers for +Hp and so on? I'd reckon Alpha slot for the Recharge boost would be rather handy. |
2. If you're going to roll a Brute you might as well make it Fire. Healing Flames is one of the best self-heals in the game, Fiery Embrace helps if you're trying to push out lots of damage really fast, and it gets a little more slow resistance than most other sets. Elec's decent too, but the long recharge on the self-heal slows it down a bit. WP is passable at best, and the rest of the secondaries aren't all that good (to the point where Energy is basically like playing without any secondary at all).
3. HP is extremely important in PvP 2.0. Get your accolades, try to shoot for 2200+ HP if you can. Recharge is somewhat important, as is acc, but you won't need much acc bonus if you're running Rage, and especially not if you're running FA on top of that.
@macskull, @Not Mac | XBL: macskull | Steam: macskull | Skype: macskull
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
Any builds? I went with a general build but seems to be lacking the kick I wanted when I made it.