Out-leveling Praetoria Content


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So I rolled a Stalker just for the express purpose of playing through the Praetoria content, and I am really enjoying the heck out of it. Fun stories, nice double-crosses. Nice to take the time and actually read mission flavor. Also, nice work giving the various contacts their own speaking styles. Nice touch.

I always solo, and never take out more than the bare minimum of targets to accomplish the mission. Despite that, I'm pretty sure I've already outleveled some content. The Loyalist archs alone have gotten me to 14, and I'd hate to miss good stuff on the Resistance side.

So, TL; DR, at what level(s) do i need to shut of XP to do all the content yellow-side?

Edited for typos turning into swear words... ^_^


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At level 14 you've already passed your chance to do everything on your Stalker.

There are guides on this in the Player Guides section but basically you have to shut off XP at "main" contact cutoffs at level 10 and 15 at the very least. The Guides have more precise info for all that.


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At level 14 you've already passed your chance to do everything on your Stalker.

There are guides on this in the Player Guides section but basically you have to shut off XP at "main" contact cutoffs at level 10 and 15 at the very least. The Guides have more precise info for all that.
Why do the missions outlevel at all?

Praetorian factions are pretty much unique in that the enemies involved go from 1-20, so outlevelling Nova at 10 and Imperial at 15 makes no real sense to me.


 

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Why do the missions outlevel at all?

Praetorian factions are pretty much unique in that the enemies involved go from 1-20, so outlevelling Nova at 10 and Imperial at 15 makes no real sense to me.
I think it stems from this quaint idea the Devs still cling to that individual characters should have an individual "journey" through the content and that it should NOT be our goal to have a single character experience everything.

Now I understand why they keep that view of things because they think it's the main reason why people like to play alts. That could be the case for some people, but in reality all that policy really does is tend to frustrate the "completists" among us who's only real motivation to keep playing is precisely the goal of trying to experience all content on one character. It's the classic disconnect between the game we want to play and the game the Devs -want- us to play.

I doubt the Devs will ever directly pander to your idea of making things generally "un-outlevelable". But thankfully they finally gave us the "no XP" toggle that will allow us to regulate our ability to play however we want, even if the way we want to play doesn't make the Devs happy.


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Thanks for the help Lothic. I'm almost tempted to reroll... but dang that 100 Mauraders mission was a tough one.


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At level 14 you've already passed your chance to do everything on your Stalker.
IIRC, the faction choice you're forced to make in the tutorial locks you out of 2 story arcs given by the opposite side, and you can't fix that with shut-off XP.


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If you're talking about the Nova Praetoria story-arcs, that's not true. You can still to the Warden and Responsibility story-arcs regardless of your alignment and doing the alignment-locked story-arcs is a simple matter of changing your alignment.

You just need to be sure to turn your XP of at level 10 so as not to outlevel the Nova contacts. Well, level 7 if you don't know where the contacts are and need Provost Marchand and Calvin Scott to lead you the way to them.


 

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I think it stems from this quaint idea the Devs still cling to that individual characters should have an individual "journey" through the content and that it should NOT be our goal to have a single character experience everything.

Now I understand why they keep that view of things because they think it's the main reason why people like to play alts. That could be the case for some people, but in reality all that policy really does is tend to frustrate the "completists" among us who's only real motivation to keep playing is precisely the goal of trying to experience all content on one character. It's the classic disconnect between the game we want to play and the game the Devs -want- us to play.

I doubt the Devs will ever directly pander to your idea of making things generally "un-outlevelable". But thankfully they finally gave us the "no XP" toggle that will allow us to regulate our ability to play however we want, even if the way we want to play doesn't make the Devs happy.
I don't want to make things generally "un-outlevelable" at all, I understand generally why they do it. But with Praetoria it is so quick to fly through a lot of the content and the ranges are so tight that it makes it trickier to complete arcs all the way through so you can do the Morality missions at the end.

It's missing out on the chance to make decisions on what your character does / becomes which frustrate me the most in Praetoria. Why write tech to allow people to make these new meaningful choices, one of the main features of the new arcs, if we have to use a work-around to get to them.


 

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But with Praetoria it is so quick to fly through a lot of the content and the ranges are so tight that it makes it trickier to complete arcs all the way through so you can do the Morality missions at the end.
I guess it was a compromise between having "too much" content versus "not having enough". They had to err one way or the other so they went with the safer bet of making the arcs longer than you can typically finish without artificially slowing yourself down. It's not an optimal implementation, but it's a practical one. *shrugs*


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Its possible to do it all but you have to very vigilent about doing just the bare minimum to finish a mission. I did all the loyalist arcs on my scrapper. Gonna try it with the resistance on my stalker to see if I can manage. Also on the missions where you get helper npcs what I do is leave them at the door or get them killed so their arent killing stuff giving you more xp. If you run into a point where you over do it and need xp to get to the next level I recommend badge hunting to fill in what xp you need.


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