Get rid of pop-ups.


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With Going Rogue, we got a nice new feature called Pop Help which sits conveniently out of the way on the side of the screen until you have a moment to read it at your leisure. Or, even better, if you've read it before, you can just turn it off and not deal with it.

However, not all pop-ups work like this. We still get stuff like "OMG YOU GOT YOUR FIRST TIP READ ME NAO" popping up smack dab in the middle of the screen in the middle of combat. The LAST thing I want to do is read about how amazing my first piece of salvage is while a boss is trying to two-shot my squishy. So, every and all pop-up type of help that tells you about some thing that just dropped needs to be converted into pop help. Get it out of our faces in mid-combat and let use read it when we want to. Or just disable it after we've seen the box twenty times.

The pop-help needs to be expanded to new contacts as well. Sorry Montague, but it's rather rude of you to pop up in the middle of my screen screaming "HALP MEH PLZ!" just because I hit level 10. Especially if I'm still fighting. Have these notices appear in a similar fashion to pop-help. In fact, while we're at it, let's delete all those "Hey, go talk to PvP dudes/Jim/Marino/My Cat before I give you real tasks" missions and have those contacts get notices in pop-help like all these others. Using the pop-help for both of these systems and dumping those needless Fed Exes would really streamline a few parts of the game.


 

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I agree completely.


Goodbye. Not to the game, but the players. Goodbye. Everyone, remember to have fun. That's all I can say.

 

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Originally Posted by TwilightPhoenix View Post
With Going Rogue, we got a nice new feature called Pop Help which sits conveniently out of the way on the side of the screen until you have a moment to read it at your leisure. Or, even better, if you've read it before, you can just turn it off and not deal with it.

However, not all pop-ups work like this. We still get stuff like "OMG YOU GOT YOUR FIRST TIP READ ME NAO" popping up smack dab in the middle of the screen in the middle of combat. The LAST thing I want to do is read about how amazing my first piece of salvage is while a boss is trying to two-shot my squishy. So, every and all pop-up type of help that tells you about some thing that just dropped needs to be converted into pop help. Get it out of our faces in mid-combat and let use read it when we want to. Or just disable it after we've seen the box twenty times.

The pop-help needs to be expanded to new contacts as well. Sorry Montague, but it's rather rude of you to pop up in the middle of my screen screaming "HALP MEH PLZ!" just because I hit level 10. Especially if I'm still fighting. Have these notices appear in a similar fashion to pop-help. In fact, while we're at it, let's delete all those "Hey, go talk to PvP dudes/Jim/Marino/My Cat before I give you real tasks" missions and have those contacts get notices in pop-help like all these others. Using the pop-help for both of these systems and dumping those needless Fed Exes would really streamline a few parts of the game.
I want fewer pointless Fed-Ex missions. Every time I get a "Go travel to X because Y" mission, I ask myself "Does this make sense to the story or is this legacy stuff from Jack's tenure designed to be a time sink?".

As for the "Your first piece of salvage!! OMG YAY!!" pop-up whenever my umpteenth alt hits L4? Reword the pop-up a bit and have it wait until the next mission exit/entrence, when I'll be out of combat, barring a "hot door" or an ambush. Better yet, have me only see it once. Ever.
If I got the "sold X number of salvage" badge or any of the crafting badges on another character, chance are that I know what salvage is.


 

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You know you can disable those pop-ups in the options menu, right?

Those just became less annoying.

And I only recall contact pop ups, popping up when you train, not while in the middle of fighting. Unless you're training while fighting, inwhich case, I'd like to know that secret.


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You know you can disable those pop-ups in the options menu, right?

Those just became less annoying.

And I only recall contact pop ups, popping up when you train, not while in the middle of fighting. Unless you're training while fighting, inwhich case, I'd like to know that secret.
This. Just turn them off. Problem solved.


 

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He's not talking about removing them completely. He's talking about turning "X contact has contacted you" Or "You have earned your first salvage" into pop helps, the exclamation points at the side of your screen, rather then the popping up in your face unexpectedly.


Goodbye. Not to the game, but the players. Goodbye. Everyone, remember to have fun. That's all I can say.

 

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Yeah, the exclamation mark pop-ups don't bother me. They sit nice and out of the way when they appear to remind me I need to turn pop-help off on that toon. Turning that off, however, does not seem to affect the pop ups for stuff like "ZOMG SALVAGE!", unless I'm simply missing something.

Also, consistency. Shouldn't all the tutorial messages show up in the exact same fashion?


 

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Originally Posted by TwilightPhoenix View Post
Yeah, the exclamation mark pop-ups don't bother me. They sit nice and out of the way when they appear to remind me I need to turn pop-help off on that toon. Turning that off, however, does not seem to affect the pop ups for stuff like "ZOMG SALVAGE!", unless I'm simply missing something.

Also, consistency. Shouldn't all the tutorial messages show up in the exact same fashion?
Oh okay. Maybe see if they can have the pop-ups like those pop up off to the side, instead of the center of the screen.

Or, if you move the first one to the side, then they all pop up there.

Eh, never had a problem with those, hated the pop up helps though...they just kept popping up to much! grrrr...I know already! I know!


BrandX Future Staff Fighter
The BrandX Collection

 

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I like this idea... but... might I also add a suggestion of my own?

The exclamation points can get annoying... in terms of turning them off. I don't like having to dig through the list-o-stuff to get to the option... so perhaps there can be a little X just above them? Don't like the popups? Boom, exclamations gone.


 

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Originally Posted by Terminal Velocity View Post
He's not talking about removing them completely. He's talking about turning "X contact has contacted you" Or "You have earned your first salvage" into pop helps, the exclamation points at the side of your screen, rather then the popping up in your face unexpectedly.
yea I'd be for this


 

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Originally Posted by Rock_Crag View Post
The exclamation points can get annoying... in terms of turning them off. I don't like having to dig through the list-o-stuff to get to the option... so perhaps there can be a little X just above them? Don't like the popups? Boom, exclamations gone.

They could probably add a radio dial for "Don't show pop help again" in each pop message, kind of like how you can disable the "useful salvage" prompt (and others) from the prompt itself.


 

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Originally Posted by Rock_Crag View Post
I like this idea... but... might I also add a suggestion of my own?

The exclamation points can get annoying... in terms of turning them off. I don't like having to dig through the list-o-stuff to get to the option... so perhaps there can be a little X just above them? Don't like the popups? Boom, exclamations gone.
Turn them off on one character.
Save settings.
Other characters - "Load settings from file." Never see a ! again.


 

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This. Just turn them off. Problem solved.
The contact and first-salvage ones aren't considered pop up help, hence they still come up even after you turn pop up help off.

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Turn them off on one character.
Save settings.
If memory serves, settings only consider window placement and chat tabs. If you log into the game and make a new character without logging into an existing one first, then all of your general options are set to the defaults, inclusive of the popup setting.


 

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If memory serves, settings only consider window placement and chat tabs. If you log into the game and make a new character without logging into an existing one first, then all of your general options are set to the defaults, inclusive of the popup setting.
Save settings does affect the pop help. And that was why I said "Other characters - hit load settings."

No, it doesn't affect "go talk to montague" and the like, but it does affect everything else.


 

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Save settings does affect the pop help. And that was why I said "Other characters - hit load settings."

No, it doesn't affect "go talk to montague" and the like, but it does affect everything else.
Well then something's not working for me. I saved both window and chat files on a character with pop ups turned off, restarted COH, made a throw-away, and no matter how many times I hit "load," it won't get rid of the popups.

In fact, nothing in the General Tab is being affected by those files, including the Window category (which is all just "dim window" options).

EDIT: and yes, I know that the contact pop ups as well as the "you got your first salvage!" ones are not considered pop up help and are therefore not affected by the option. Though, I do support the suggestion to shove them into that category. I only need to be told to talk to Montague once or twice.


 

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I've made several toons and never get the popups after loading my file. There are 2 disable popup options listed are you turning them both off? Can someone quote both options please I'm at work and can't find them on wiki.


 

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I've made several toons and never get the popups after loading my file. There are 2 disable popup options listed are you turning them both off? Can someone quote both options please I'm at work and can't find them on wiki.
Disable Pop Up Help and Disable Automatic Pop Up Help, or somesuch.

And yes, they are both off. The thing to note is, they do carry over, along with all the other General tab option settings, if you have already logged-in as someone else. If you just started the game and make a new character, the General tab will have all of its options on default.

EDIT: Nevermind, I found my trouble. Something had set my options file to Read Only and it hadn't been saved since before popups were made. I feel like the person asking for techie help when the only trouble with something was that I forgot to plug a device in... carry on. =w=;;


 

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I'm saying that I saved them off and everytime I make a new toon I load from file and do not get the popups. ie what Memphis said.