Dominator Psy Mastery
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Derangedpolygot,
Posted on: 2010-10-03 09:51 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
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Yeah, 'Overpower' is a controller thing. As Psychic Mastery was ported right from Controller APP's, it stand to reason this was simply overlooked in the transition. If anything it should Dominate with an extra +1 mag confuse.
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Originally Posted by lmt1979
World of confusion on my dom is "overpowering" mobs in game. Is anyone else experiencing this. As far as I know that is a controller inherent.
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on the topic of dominator psi mastery, what exactly is the point of having indomitable will (the mez protect click) when domination itself gives mez protection which protects against most things?
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Stacking for even more protection?|
Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
on the topic of dominator psi mastery, what exactly is the point of having indomitable will (the mez protect click) when domination itself gives mez protection which protects against most things?
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Using IW when Dom is down (not everyone is perma)?
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even 3 rech slotted into IW, domination prolly has less downtime and can still be used while mezzed, which IW cannot be used while your mezzed
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Originally Posted by Rush_Bolt
Stacking for even more protection?
Using IW when Dom is down (not everyone is perma)? |
Not every Dom is perma, it covers gaps. Also can be useful for mez protection if you need to rebuild domination at some point.
Better possibilities in most cases true, but it's not a complete waste of space.
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Base IW recharge: 360s.|
Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
even 3 rech slotted into IW, domination prolly has less downtime and can still be used while mezzed, which IW cannot be used while your mezzed
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3 Recharge SOs: 96.5%
360 / 1.965 = 183.2s
Base Domination recharge: 200s
IW Duration: 90s
Dom Duration: 90s
A few +Rech bonuses and you'll be able to cycle Dom>IW>Dom>IW for permanent Mez protection without having to go all the way to perma Dom.
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while i agree its good to help cover the gap from non-perma domination, once you get perma dom this power is moot anyway since domination gives better bonuses than just mez protect and costs 0 end to activate
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Psi Defense
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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
on the topic of dominator psi mastery, what exactly is the point of having indomitable will
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So which we go back to "Not all Doms are perma" and "The game is not balanced on IOs."
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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
while i agree its good to help cover the gap from non-perma domination, once you get perma dom this power is moot anyway since domination gives better bonuses than just mez protect and costs 0 end to activate
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Head of TRICK, the all Trick Arrow and Traps SG
Part of the Repeat Offenders
Still waiting for his Official BackAlleyBrawler No-Prize
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yeah i know, but to me domination does the same thing, but does it better, which makes IW basically worthless to any dom i make|
Originally Posted by Rush_Bolt
So which we go back to "Not all Doms are perma" and "The game is not balanced on IOs."
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i know it has some psi defense, but how many enemies actually use psi dmg aside from seers and carnies?
edit: im not trying to argue for or against anything, im just voicing my opinion that this power seems to be kind of useless for doms
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Indomitable will also gives a huge psi defense boost.... just sayin'
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someone beat me to it, lol
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I can see that. But I'm seeing it from an everyday sort of play, aka non-perma which is probably the vast majority of Dominators out there.|
Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
yeah i know, but to me domination does the same thing, but does it better, which makes IW basically worthless to any dom i make
i know it has some psi defense, but how many enemies actually use psi dmg aside from seers and carnies? edit: im not trying to argue for or against anything, im just voicing my opinion that this power seems to be kind of useless for doms |
Domination isn't up all the time, so IW has a role there: It protects you when you can't use Dom.
To me, saying IW is useless is akin to saying /Regens who have hit the HP Cap don't need Dull Pain since they have Reconstruction.
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most of my doms dont rely on domination for much more than mez protection until its perma, when it is perma then i focus more on dmg since i have controls taken care of|
Originally Posted by Rush_Bolt
I can see that. But I'm seeing it from an everyday sort of play, aka non-perma which is probably the vast majority of Dominators out there.
Domination isn't up all the time, so IW has a role there: It protects you when you can't use Dom. To me, saying IW is useless is akin to saying /Regens who have hit the HP Cap don't need Dull Pain since they have Reconstruction. |
but since this game is about player choice, if you want to get IW on a dom, feel free, but im never gonna personally take psi mastery on a dom when i have the choice of ice mastery or fire mastery which has good debuffs amd dmging powers (fire mastery especially if i have fire assault for the synergy with embrace of fire)
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I wouldn't take it on any of my Doms either, but that's rather beside the point.
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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
but since this game is about player choice, if you want to get IW on a dom, feel free, but im never gonna personally take psi mastery on a dom when i have the choice of ice mastery or fire mastery which has good debuffs amd dmging powers (fire mastery especially if i have fire assault for the synergy with embrace of fire)
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I used Indom Will to cap Psi defense in builds. Never followed through with building for in real life but it works if I wanted it to. Plus some Dominators can Power Bosot first and nearly cap Psi defense without any IOs at all. Check out the Psi Defense in this, uh, "build":
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Level 42 Magic Dominator
Primary Power Set: Earth Control
Secondary Power Set: Earth Assault
Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery
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Level 41: Indomitable Will -- DefBuff(A), DefBuff(42)
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True, but since the vast majority of Dominators will never reach perma dom it still has its uses for the average player. Far more players use SOs / generic IOs / cheap frankenslotting than billion inf high recharge builds, and even some people who do invest in expensive sets might decide to go for high defense plus moderate recharge rather than perma dom, especially if they can still have full time mez protection.
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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
while i agree its good to help cover the gap from non-perma domination, once you get perma dom this power is moot anyway since domination gives better bonuses than just mez protect and costs 0 end to activate
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World of confusion on my dom is "overpowering" mobs in game. Is anyone else experiencing this. As far as I know that is a controller inherent.