32 vs 30; 37 vs 35


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I have seen this topic discussed as a side note in some threads but wanted to try to consolidate some ideas and opinions in one place.

my question, for the marketing experts out there, is: are you better off rolling at 30 or 35 instead of 32 or 37 with the following set of circumstances.

- I like to IO out my characters using mid-30 level recipes. if you can find any for sale on the market, they are usually way cheaper to buy and craft

- I like to exempt down through Ouros, with my two favorite ranges being 25 - 29 and 30 - 34.

- I random roll using merits, and now the new A-merits, mainly to get set pieces I need but try to sell the ones I don't need. not looking to make a lot of influence but would be nice to cover my costs for crafting the ones I keep for myself

I have a couple of characters locked at 32 and 37 to rotate between AE, Ouros and Tip missions to get the recipes and sometimes the rare salvage I need. locking at 32 vs. 30 is nice because I get my final primary power but could easily run missions without it. being at 32 also has the advantage of being able to roll in the level 35 - 39 range, which is my favorite range to random roll.

the trade off in IO effectiveness is really not an issue. the enhancement % between a 32 and 30 is probably .5 - 1% on most of the multiple effect IOs. but the picky math side of me figured that because my exemped to 29 characters could use a maximum level of 32, then that's what I should be using

so, with all that in mind - would I get better over all results locking and rolling at 30 and 35, primarily to be able to sell more of my excess enhancements for better prices? or to be able to sell them at all, as it seems like there is a very limited market for 32s and 37s. though it doesn't always appear to be that much better at 30 or 35 for a lot of the recipes I don't need.

if I were to switch to locking at 30, what would be the recommended range to random roll in place of 35 - 39. I have never really liked the 30 -34 range as there are just too many recipes in that range. maybe it's just my bad luck but I always seem to get way more trash rolling there than in 35 - 39.

does 25 - 29 work any better? I would like to stay in a range that has a possibility for kinetics as I would have a use for those on several characters and any excess would sell well at any level.


 

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I assume youre refering to Kinectic Combats. I roll 25-29 and get alot in that range. Also, ToD's. I get alot of Numinas, Oblits, and Miracles in the 35-39 range.


 

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I don't have any good answers. Here's some undirected musings:

"30-34"is a terrible place to roll. Rolling at 30-34 gives you access to the full spectrum of trash as well as the full spectrum of good stuff. But that's a LOT of trash, and the 25-29 trash is even more worthless than the 35-39 trash. On the other hand they added some really good recipes that show up in 25-29 that are in very low supply.

If you lock at level 30, there's a lot of competitors on supply, because any set that caps at 30 is going to show up at 30 even if a level 50 rolls it. Also, any bosses from zombie rising or rikti invasions have a tiny chance of dropping level 30 pool C's, so that adds to the pile. I personally wouldn't lock at 30.

30 and 35 are "better" in that they have healthier markets. More people buy there, more people sell there, stuff moves faster. 33 used to be a level that had disproportionate supply, so people looked there, so people rolled there, so you had a healthier market. I'm not sure it still is. (Also used to be popular for Siren's Call PVP.) 32 is an exemplar level- as you've mentioned- and I think it's starting to gain some popularity as a result, at least compared to 33.

If you're keeping "the good stuff" you're never going to get a lot of inf for what's left, no matter what level you roll at.

I'd pick 32 or 35, rolling in the 35-39 range [unless there are two or more things you want for a specific character that cap at 30.] But that's not a very strong recommendation.


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I've been cashing hero merits on my 32 the past couple days, and I'm not so sure it matters all that much. My gut says that if folks have had a bid at say, level 35 long enough that they'll check the entire range every now and then. I know when I was looking for 37s for a couple of sets I certainly did.

I'd personally rather roll at 32 than 33 though, just for those keeping exemplaring in mind (I may lock there for a few more rolls before moving on).


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I thought consensus was that straight buying was better than rolling with hero merits.


 

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Originally Posted by seebs View Post
I thought consensus was that straight buying was better than rolling with hero merits.
I'd thought it was dependent on character level. I straight-buy with my 50s because so much of Pool C has turned to vendor fodder at max level. I roll randomly with my characters in their 30s because of how true I've found Goat's "Rule of Zero" to be.


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In my experience, there is a much more active market at the 30 and 35 level for recipes. There's no real reason for that except people like to count by 5s. If you plan on selling most of your drops, then I would probably lock there. But if you plan on using most of the drops for yourself, play at the level you prefer. I like 33 and 37, just so I can get some slots in the lvl 32 and/or 35 power.

It seems that many people look at the "non-multiple of 5" levels as an opportunity for low ball bidding. I know I do...


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thanks everyone for the replies. some good tidbits in here.

overall, looks like I will continue down the path I am on but maybe with one slight tweak. I think I will lock a character at 35 instead of 37. the level 37 IOs were going to go to characters that exemp down to 34 and it really won't make a noticeable difference in the enhancement % if they use 35's instead. and the things I don't want, or have enough of, may sell better at 35 than 37

but I think I am going to stay at 32 instead of moving down to 30. the 35 - 39 range of recipes is just so much better than 30 - 34. dropping down to 25 - 29 is a possibility. most of the recipes I am looking for are in both ranges. rolling in the lower range would cost me the chance at Oblit, numina and mako but would gain a shot at the basilisk quad. and at 32, I could still roll some in the lower range if I wanted to but wouldn't be forced to.