Underwater Adventures

It's hard to have a rational discussion on the matter when the op is talking about firing the lead designer. The core question is do you want an underwater zone or not (asumming it's done right)? Anyone can go back and pull up quotes from the Devs on why it can't be done (right now), but priorities change with time and if the "powers-that-be" say all the cool kids these days want a cool underwater zone, then we will probably get one. I just wish I had dollar for all the face-palms that were flung about back when the talk was power customization.

Mmm...


Lets relook at this...

I suggested, that at the worse, and underwater setting could be used as a means to add challenge to a game, many do complain about being too easy.

Then I suggested for each power that could be negatively affected, a simple work around could be exacted, such as a force bubble (that you could get at any friendly agent station, a recipe for a temp power), the force bubble could be identical to the bubble already placed around you during the Terra Volta trial (no new extensive coding), thus with that it puts an end to the costume and power look massive change lame excuse against underwater. Same force bubble, by some form of fancy osmosis removes the co2 from within your bubble and exchanges it with fresh air from the water...

Let me see, oh yes fire does not work underwater, and electricity dissipates underwater, any other Newtonian smart excuses there? Mmm, my powers are magical, the same magic that gives me my powers ensures they work just as well underwater. Mmm, I am technology, the quantum field that polarises the air between me and my target, polirizes the water instead... As I said, if we want to be exclusively negative, that is easy, all you have to do is say anything, stretch an interpretation and add sarcasm or insults to make your point valid. Why not accept the challenge, and be positive? Why not suggest ways of making something possible?

Now please don't get me wrong, with any new idea or concept, there always are issues or difficulties that needs addressing. I do agree it is a good thing to identify these as early as possible, its sensible. But from that point is where I depart in opinion with many of you, simply stating there is a problem, therefore its a bad idea, I give up! In fact many, simply do not even judge the idea's worth for itself, we seem to easily be blinded by mechanics that we automatically give the idea a thumbs down with out even thinking the meaning of the idea. Let me try to clarify, what I am trying to say, a player may suggest "let me choose the colors of my powers", folks imemdiately realizes that the work load for the devs to do just this simple thing is huge, so as a result, we imemdiately judge the suggestion to be bad, dumb, come up with all kind of negative judgements and sarcasm - while all along we never stopepd and thought "hey it would be cool if we could colorize our powers". If you all search the suggestion archives, you will find such a suggetion, and you will also find all the thumbs down it received and the loads of sarcasm the various suggesting authors received.

If we look at the postings above, many have valid points with regards to things to watch out for, but precious few deals with how to handle those concerns; instead of solving problems, we fall back into ridicule and sarcasm.

Let me take one of our posters above, say Penny, while she is not consistent, I seen her post many positive comments to ideas. Her note worthy posts, begins by describing the weakness or flaw with the suggestion, but what sets her apart, is that she actually suggest a way to ovecome that flaw and accomplish the intent the suggestion poster was after. She had an intellectually sound foundation, and had no need to resource to ridicule or sarcasm to give her thoughts credibility. We all could learn from that practice.

So once more,please re-look a the suggestion, and this time a bit of objective thinking on the idea itself would be greatly appreciated, and yes it can be followed by your perceived weaknesses or faults; but do challenge yourself to also come up with ways that they can be solved...

Stormy

Just my opinion, but I can't get excited about this idea. I've read through the posts in this thread and can understand both sides of the issue. I personally wouldn't go to an underwater zone more than once to see what its like.

I just give up, some of us can't see the forest for the trees...

Stormy