Knockback IOs
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Set Bonuses are constant percent benefits, unaffected by the level of the enhancement. Set Bonuses are lost when a character exemplars more than three levels below the level of the Invention Enhancement. An Invention Enhancement's level affects the strength of its basic enhancement bonus.
...-KB, specifically.
If I have one slotted in the power I get at 32, and I exemp to, say, 12, do I get the benefits of the IO? Does it matter if I exemp below the IO's level? The power's level? Thanks for the help. |
The only IO's that keep their properties no matter what level you are exempt down to are unique sets.
Hope this helps
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Not that helpful here.
Set Bonuses are constant percent benefits, unaffected by the level of the enhancement. Set Bonuses are lost when a character exemplars more than three levels below the level of the Invention Enhancement. An Invention Enhancement's level affects the strength of its basic enhancement bonus.
The only IO's that keep their properties no matter what level you are exempt down to are unique sets. Hope this helps |
If the -KB was from a set bonus (kinetic crash etc) you'd have to have the power to get the set bonus and the IO would heve to be 3 or less levels above your exemp level.
If it's a straight -KB IO (karma etc) then you don't need the power available, but the IO needs to be the level you're exemped to or less (possibly +3, not 100% sure).
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IE, you'd prefer to slot a level 15 Karma, Steadfast Protection, or BotZ KB IO if that's a possibility.
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Not correct. You do not need to keep the power. Only the IO level constraint applies.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
Most of the information in this thread is either incorrect or misleading, which is not all that surprising, as the way IO's work is pretty confusing.
First off, all the answers to these type of questions can be found here: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Table_of_Special_IOs
Now, to address some specifics..
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As long as the -kb IO is a level 15 or less, you would still have the -kb protection at level 12.
...-KB, specifically.
If I have one slotted in the power I get at 32, and I exemp to, say, 12, do I get the benefits of the IO? |
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Does it matter if I exemp below the IO's level? |
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The power's level? |
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The only IO's that keep their properties no matter what level you are exempt down to are unique sets.
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Some function like a normal set bonus, in which case you will only lose the bonus if you exemplar more than 3 levels below the level of the enhancement. It doesn't matter whether the power the IO is slotted in is available at that level or not. An example of this would be the Steadfast +def unique.
Others, which function as procs, like the Miracle and Numina uniques, will work regardless of the level of the IO itself, but the power it is slotted in must be available for the IO to function.
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If the -KB was from a set bonus (kinetic crash etc) you'd have to have the power to get the set bonus and the IO would heve to be 3 or less levels above your exemp level.
If it's a straight -KB IO (karma etc) then you don't need the power available, but the IO needs to be the level you're exemped to or less (possibly +3, not 100% sure). |
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You are correct, what I should have said was purple sets because that's what I was referring to
Actually, this is dependent on exactly how the unique IO functions. Some function like a normal set bonus, in which case you will only lose the bonus if you exemplar more than 3 levels below the level of the enhancement. It doesn't matter whether the power the IO is slotted in is available at that level or not. An example of this would be the Steadfast +def unique. Others, which function as procs, like the Miracle and Numina uniques, will work regardless of the level of the IO itself, but the power it is slotted in must be available for the IO to function. |
It's better to save the Mystery, than surrender to the secret...
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Not that helpful here.
If the -KB was from a set bonus (kinetic crash etc) you'd have to have the power to get the set bonus and the IO would heve to be 3 or less levels above your exemp level. If it's a straight -KB IO (karma etc) then you don't need the power available, but the IO needs to be the level you're exemped to or less (possibly +3, not 100% sure). |
It's better to save the Mystery, than surrender to the secret...
Panzerwaffen is correct on all accounts. His post is the one you want to refer to.
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...-KB, specifically.
If I have one slotted in the power I get at 32, and I exemp to, say, 12, do I get the benefits of the IO?
Does it matter if I exemp below the IO's level? The power's level?
Thanks for the help.