New Power Pool Idea discussion

I've had a few ideas for attack power pools, I'll list a few for discussion

'the knightly arts'

it would be sorta like a custom secondary power pool for melee users, you choose the weapon used for each attack at the tailor, what weapon you use defines the attack values; speed, accuracy, damage Etc. the only catch is you can only use medieval weapons, Sword, Axe, Lance, Mace, Bow and Arrow, whip, ball and chain, bow staff, or gauntlet brawl (default). please note this would mean 4 new weapons.

gauntlet brawl would use medieval gauntlets to punch and slash and pound the enemy with the power of heavy metal fists. but as I said that is just the default weapon used in the knightly arts.

Bow staff, the favorite weapon of some of robinhood's merry men, we have yet to see it used as a melee weapon in CoH, this will be an option to switch to instead of gauntlets.

Ball and Chain; like a mace but alot heavier, more powerful and slower, another weapon switch option.

Whip; we've seen a flame whip used in demon summoning, why not allow use of a customizable whip in a melee attack pool.

lance; Like for jousting, a long lance with a sharp end for stabbing your enemies through with. a knight is incomplete without it.

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Elementalist

this would be a ranged user only power pool, like the knightly arts you get to choose what element each power is at the tailor, choosing from Fire, Ice, electric, energy, psionics, radiation, sonic and even storm attacks, the only things left out will be long range weapons that are not element or energy based such as pistols, rifles and bow and arrow.

this makes it a customizable powerpool, allowing anyone to become a master of all the elements.

Currently, all the attacks available via power pools are melee. I'd like to have one that contained a ranged attack, any kind.

"Knightly Arts" would be better off as "Weapons Master", including more modern variants as well as the medieval versions. This way it could include present day superhero characters such as Taskmaster or Terminator (Slade Wilson) as well as medieval themed ones.

Same game mechanics, but let the mace be replaced with a nightstick and so on, just like the current War Mace customisations allow for a range of different concepts.

I'm not clear if you're asking for multiple weapons within the one pool or the player chooses on weapon to apply across all powers from this pool. If its the first (multiple weapons) then will the costume UI fit this for choosing weapons? I'm not sure.

Final note - a lance without a horse wouldn't look too cool. And what do you do with your lance attack if the enemy is already in conventional melee range?

First of all it seems almost a rule (exception being Air Superiority) that Pool attacks stink.

Secondly having a pool where you might take just a few attacks and then have horrible horrible redraw for a bad attack is not good.

I can hardly see anyone dipping into this pool to get a ball and chain attack they can use once every 20 seconds that does bad damage and has long animation/redraw/etc. times...

What's up with all these Power Pool discussions? Are they really going to introduce more or it's just pure "wish list"? I guess if we talk about it more, it's more likely that it would happen? :P

I wouldn't mind seeing a gadget's/artifacts pool... something with generic enough names that it can fit for any origin and customizeable in appearance (once pools can be customized). Think medicine pool but more offensive.

1. single target ranged attack (generic name like quick shot or somesuch): moderate ranged attack. Could be a hand gun not unlike the temp power, doesnt have to have a very long range and customizeable as a wand for magic types or possibly other options like a beam from the hands)

2. perception: some kind of +perception +acc to self power... like night vision goggles or magical lense or some such. modest duration click with a medium to long cooldown. think of it like a weaker focused accuracy but as a click instead of a toggle. could easily have no visible vfx or be as simple as an eye or head glow.

3. resistance: a passive minor resistance bonus to all damage (i'm talking something small like in the 3% range). sorta of like a protective amulet, natural body armor or a kevlar vest. As a passive no vfx is needed

4. freedom: basically a click power that works like a break free, releasing you from cc effects and protecting you from them for a short time. Something as basic as this can be desirable, isnt game breaking, requires no slotting and is a nice quality of life power (much like self res powers tend to be). Could use the same vfx as a break free really.

maybe the order of these powers isnt good or maybe some of them are too powerful? I dunno. It's just something off the top of my head. Ideally though such a pool would come into existence after pool powers can be customized. One thing that keeps me away from the medicine pool is the fact that its always that silly tricorder... which often looks out of place on many of my characters.

Using *only* powers that already exist as invention recipes, and are thus available to everyone:

Street Weapons pool
1. Baseball bat (melee attack)
2. Envenomed Dagger (single target debuf)
3. Revolver (ranged attack)
4. Hand Grenades (targeted AoE attack)

Gadgets pool
1. Smoke Flash (targeted AoE debuff)
2. Power Analyzer (special; gives info on enemies)
3. Jet Pack (movement power)
4. Backup Radio (short duration pet)

Scientist pool
1. Plasmatic Taser (weak ranged attack)
2. Recovery Serum (recovery buff)
3. Med Pack (self heal)
4. Kinetic Dampener (resistance shield)

It would probably take a day's work for one programmer to code all these together.

And that's without delving into all the temporary powers found in missions, or purchasable from vendors in PvP zones, or granted from expansion packs. There are tons of powers out there. Putting them into power pools and letting players customize their characters with them should be trivial.

first of all, understood on the whip and bow staff.

secondly this is a 'Secondary power pool' not a 'power pool', this will be a melee users attacks (chosable at character creation)

3rdly yes I meant multiple weapons with-in 1 pool

4thly yes a lance would be awesome, and a ball and chain

Okay, then you are talking about Power SETS, not power pools. That is why people are confused.

Go and check out Lady Jade's Power Suggestion Box in the Suggestions and Ideas forums, and see what other people have suggested there, and also how they can be presented well. You lay out several powers for a set, but not enough to make a full set out of. Show us a full set, and how it would work.

A Lance, for instance, might be fun, but how would it work if you don't have a horse? A spear would be better for a footman than a lance would be. Having multiple weapons within one set would be a LOT of redraw, which a lot of people don't like that much.

Nitpick.

Slade Wilson's alter-ego name is Deathstroke the Terminator...or simply Deathstroke.

As to the topic...the new weapons/anims issue aside...if i'm reading this right, the OP is suggesting a pool where the exact specifics/mechanics of the power choices you make are based one what weapon skin you choose? uuummm....wow? Assuming i'm right, this would go far beyond just adding a new power pool or 2, new weapons, and new animations, but ALSO into an entire coding of altering power attributes based upon player choices, which even from my perspective of a non-programmer type, sounds like a SERIOUS pain in the *** to have to build from the ground up for a power set...pool or otherwise. The concept is kinda cool, i admit...but i really don't see that happening anytime soon on just the programming nightmare aspect of it alone.

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Just an added thought...

After running through this thread again and catching on something i missed before...this is supposed to be a secondary for melee classes...which would mean for scrappers and brutes (it would be a primary for tanks)...and there is one other MAJOR problem with it.

Secondary sets for scrapz and brutes are DEFENSIVE sets that keep them alive through defense, resistance, regen, mez protection and/or combinations thereof.

This proposed set has none of the above and is purely offensive in nature, offering nothing in the way of keeping you alive. And for a melee class...to quote a phrase "That's bad, 'mkay."

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