I bet his suit makes use of dilatant material as well as some crazy composites. As for the mechanics of the suit, meh, its a comic so it doesn't have to adhere to real world principles.
That's like Iron man's palm repulsors, how the hell do you really get something with that much destructive power into a a space a few millimeters thick. I know when I did a tech spec page on my power armor guy, the gauntlets featured waldos so that his hands were better protected even though the energy projectors are above the hands.
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I think you're thinking about this the wrong way. Bruce Wayne has access to bleeding edge technology and materials. Why wouldn't he (or Lucious Fox) be able to design things that look like what we've seen?
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Originally Posted by Durakken
You know after reading through so much batman I just now realized... I don't think the bat suit has ever been shown properly.
For example. The Cape and cowl is always shown as one piece, but... We know that the cape is detachable from the cowl part... but it gets more tricky the cap is attach to a steel gorget that doesn't seem to be directly attached to the gorget because if it were it would be too stiff. On the other hand the cowl has been shown to be ripped apart but we never see anything underneath. This can't be because there are lenses, electronics, and is bullet proof. If it didn't have not just a tight fit but a head structure something like a military helmet it would cause batman to have a concussion... This structure is always referred to but never accurately shown... Wonder what people would think if they saw it...would that lessen what Batman is by showing it? Also, when you think about it, the Bat-suit in the movie, is way off the mark for what it would look like in reality given what we know about the suit... it would look more like the comic given Batman's disposition and training... the suits in the movies don't make much sense >.> i wonder if there is any illustrations of the complete suit in detail as they would be. |
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The cowl structure, under it has to be there for biological, physics, and practicality reasons. The reason it was put in military head gear was because even though the helmet could stop the bullet the person wearing the helmet would get a concussion due to the force. It's also necessary to have it for storage of various lenses that are built in. A headphone type ear piece is in there because it's the most practical and safe...you don't want to fidget for an ear piece or risk not having it in properly when dealing with various villains.
From the perspective of just looking at the cowl it would look the same on the outside, but the way it looks on the inside and when it's torn apart would look far more high tech based on how Batman would operate. Not to mention it's been mentioned to not be over-reliant on the technology and as such would likely not incorporate anything that wasn't to some degree fool proof.
The cape connected to the cowl simply doesn't work due to, as i pointed out, he has removed it and put it back on without effort, from the cowl which means it's separate. We know it's connected to the gorget because that's the point of the gorget.
He could be using nanotech to removes seems and such, but again that wouldn't make sense given batman's not wanting to rely on tech and a perfectly obvious lower tech practical way of doing it and not to mention if they had done that the gorget would have made no sense as it was put in place to prevent strangulation by the cape if it ever got caught in a way that it would occure. If it was nanite he'd have just made them release.
We've pretty much seen every configuration the cap/cowl can be in and because of that we can say it is likely a 3 piece system.
Also I'm not saying the way we have seen things aren't how they look, but not 100%... sorta like a minimalist representation of the suit, leaving out things that are state, like there being some sort of bolting in the suit that... th question is taking it to the 100% accurate to the description mark work against the character or not?
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I hadn't thought of that... I'd think it's at least one of the layers as I know he uses Kevlar/Nomex bi-weave material (stops slashes, bullets, and is thermal resistent) as well as have a lead lining and the top part of the suit we see is thinner than bullet proofing. I would also suspect that the bat and the chest area is lined with ceramic plating as that is where it would do the most good and have the least impact on the suit.
They don't show that level of detail because there's no need to do so, and it'd be a PITA to draw consistently month after month *and* get the issues out on time.
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I'm coming more and more to believe that the supposedly "unpowered" Batman's superhuman abilities include not only Plot Armor, Being Every Writer's Darling, and Do As I Say, Not As I Do, but also Ability to Inspire Horrific Levels of Overthinking in Fandom.
In other words, it's a comic book. No one has ever bothered to think something like this through because it doesn't affect the story and need not affect the art.
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I would have to argue that it's not true... I naturally over think things and I would say that people who naturally over think things like this who like comics like good comics and Batman comics are generally given only to good/proven writers/artists and thus the people who over think are drawn to Batman.
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Originally Posted by Olantern
I'm coming more and more to believe that the supposedly "unpowered" Batman's superhuman abilities include not only Plot Armor, Being Every Writer's Darling, and Do As I Say, Not As I Do, but also Ability to Inspire Horrific Levels of Overthinking in Fandom.
In other words, it's a comic book. No one has ever bothered to think something like this through because it doesn't affect the story and need not affect the art. |
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Originally Posted by Durakken
I hadn't thought of that... I'd think it's at least one of the layers as I know he uses Kevlar/Nomex bi-weave material (stops slashes, bullets, and is thermal resistent) as well as have a lead lining and the top part of the suit we see is thinner than bullet proofing. I would also suspect that the bat and the chest area is lined with ceramic plating as that is where it would do the most good and have the least impact on the suit.
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I'm always looking for neat real world materials to update WarMain's (shameless plug) armor that could be used to explain some of the bat suit's capabilties.
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Originally Posted by Durakken
I would have to argue that it's not true... I naturally over think things
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Batman isn't the only character whose costume or gear isn't portrayed as they would be in real life...because the comic world is not real life.
Artist's prerogative. That's all it is.
Loose --> not tight.
Lose --> Did not win, misplace, cannot find, subtract.
One extra 'o' makes a big difference.
In all reality another part of the problem it Batman would very likely vary his gear much, much more then is shown in the comics.
For example he would likely have many different belts stashed in the Bat-whatever he was using that day to get around with the tools he felt he would most likely need for a given situation since he has a very limited amount of space to work with on that belt and tools are often mutually exclusive.
Rescue? Probably a bulkier belt with more tools to fight fires, medical supplies, rope lines etc.
Street fight? Probably a small one filled with easy to carry tools like plastic cuffs, a much smaller first aid kit, etc.
Powered Super villian battle? Probably again a bulkier belt, with weapons safely holstered to allow him to quickly draw them rather then dig through pouches for his weapons since he would likely be relying more on weapons then this his martial arts.
However just this small detail makes more work for artists and writers then drawing him with a generic yellow belt and simply having him claim to have changed the contents to what he needs rather then change the belt itself.
The same applies to the whole Batsuit. He would likely have many, many options for gloves, gauntlets, belts, capes, cowls, helmets, boots, armor etc.
Plus it has been shown to have some pretty unreal features like small computer control compartmets of tear gas which deploy if anyone tries to remove it which, even if possible would be accidentally triggered anytime he bumped his head so under many authors there is just no good way to show draw a more accurate batsuit.
You know after reading through so much batman I just now realized... I don't think the bat suit has ever been shown properly.
For example.
The Cape and cowl is always shown as one piece, but...
We know that the cape is detachable from the cowl part... but it gets more tricky the cap is attach to a steel gorget that doesn't seem to be directly attached to the gorget because if it were it would be too stiff. On the other hand the cowl has been shown to be ripped apart but we never see anything underneath. This can't be because there are lenses, electronics, and is bullet proof. If it didn't have not just a tight fit but a head structure something like a military helmet it would cause batman to have a concussion...
This structure is always referred to but never accurately shown... Wonder what people would think if they saw it...would that lessen what Batman is by showing it?
Also, when you think about it, the Bat-suit in the movie, is way off the mark for what it would look like in reality given what we know about the suit... it would look more like the comic given Batman's disposition and training... the suits in the movies don't make much sense >.>
i wonder if there is any illustrations of the complete suit in detail as they would be.