Inherent Inequity in Alignments
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Emberly,
Posted on: 2010-09-08 19:58 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Yes, it should be moved, but for now isn't it possible to have a hero TP you to the badge?
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Not that it does any good - they can't get the beacons.|
Originally Posted by srmalloy
Heroes who go Vigilante can explore redside, get all the redside exploration badges and zone accolades, and earn all the redside beacon badges for their SG.
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Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
Yes, it should be moved, but for now isn't it possible to have a hero TP you to the badge?
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Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
Yes, it should be moved, but for now isn't it possible to have a hero TP you to the badge?
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i did that for someone the other day and it worked
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And back again; the elevator there is hero-only both ways. If you get ported down, the only way to get back on your own is to use one of the teleport special powers -- Pocket D Gold Card, Ouroboros Portal, base teleporter, or mission teleporter. I haven't tried the last one yet, but the other three blow away your accumulated tips. Which seems to me to be broken, at least for going to Pocket D. Leaving Pocket D to either side I can see blowing away your tips for the other side, but not going there, nor exiting to the same side you earned the tips on.
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Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
Yes, it should be moved, but for now isn't it possible to have a hero TP you to the badge?
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That's a pretty trivial price to pay to get that badge. You're kinda grasping at straws here to find a problem. Also, as mentioned elsewhere, greys can't earn the non-native beacons for their SG anyway.|
Originally Posted by srmalloy
And back again; the elevator there is hero-only both ways. If you get ported down, the only way to get back on your own is to use one of the teleport special powers -- Pocket D Gold Card, Ouroboros Portal, base teleporter, or mission teleporter. I haven't tried the last one yet, but the other three blow away your accumulated tips. Which seems to me to be broken, at least for going to Pocket D. Leaving Pocket D to either side I can see blowing away your tips for the other side, but not going there, nor exiting to the same side you earned the tips on.
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edit: the hero who ported you there can presumably take the ten seconds needed to walk back out and port you out again.
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Wrong. The tips are still there, but hidden. When you go to Paragon City it only shows you hero/vigilante tips, when you go to the Rogue Isles it only shows you villain/rogue tips.
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Originally Posted by srmalloy
I haven't tried the last one yet, but the other three blow away your accumulated tips.
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Edge of Chaos is not required for the Atlas Park Beacon Badge.
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Originally Posted by srmalloy
The "Edge of Chaos" exploration badge in Atlas Park is down the heroes-only elevator in the D.A.T.A. office in City Hall. Neither villains nor rogues can reach the badge, which prevents Vigilantes from earning the exploration accolade for Atlas Park and the SG beacon badge.
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The Wentworth teleporter doesn't blow away your blueside tips.
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Originally Posted by srmalloy
And back again; the elevator there is hero-only both ways. If you get ported down, the only way to get back on your own is to use one of the teleport special powers -- Pocket D Gold Card, Ouroboros Portal, base teleporter, or mission teleporter. I haven't tried the last one yet, but the other three blow away your accumulated tips. Which seems to me to be broken, at least for going to Pocket D. Leaving Pocket D to either side I can see blowing away your tips for the other side, but not going there, nor exiting to the same side you earned the tips on.
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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
Edge of Chaos is not required for the Atlas Park Beacon Badge.
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True, but it is required for the Zone Accolade badge (and the 5 Merits that go along with it...). I would imagine that urks badgers enough as is.
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There is a fundamental inequity between redside and blueside SGs.
Heroes who go Vigilante can explore redside, get all the redside exploration badges and zone accolades, and earn all the redside beacon badges for their SG.
Villains who go Rogue can explore blueside, get all the blueside exploration badges except one, and are thereby prevented from earning all the zone accolades and blueside beacon badges for their SG.
The "Edge of Chaos" exploration badge in Atlas Park is down the heroes-only elevator in the D.A.T.A. office in City Hall. Neither villains nor rogues can reach the badge, which prevents Vigilantes from earning the exploration accolade for Atlas Park and the SG beacon badge. For equity, either the badge should be moved to the top of the elevator or a barrier put across the entry to the portal chamber itself that bars vigilantes and the restriction taken off the elevator.
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