Dark/Dark Brute or scrapper?
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ClawsandEffect,
Posted on: 2010-09-08 15:05 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
I would tend to agree that, on paper at least, both Dark sets are a little better for Scrappers - Armour for the reason you mentioned, and Melee due to Soul Drain being more effective with Scrappers higher Damage Mod.
That said, both are still very good on Brutes, and if you prefer the playstyle of them, you won't be gimping your character or anything.
gloom, higher survivability
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Scrappers can get Gloom now too, so that's a non-issue. |
Originally Posted by Terror1
gloom, higher survivability
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I can't really argue with the higher survivability, but the fact that scrappers benefit more from Soul Drain kind of balances it out. Oppressive Gloom and Cloak of Fear hurting brutes fury generation also tips things toward scrappers (since Oppressive Gloom and Cloak of Fear add to survivability)
With the recent fury changes, it's really more of a case of which playstyle you prefer anymore.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
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scrappers get dark blast, tankers get gloom
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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
Scrappers can get Gloom now too, so that's a non-issue.
I can't really argue with the higher survivability, but the fact that scrappers benefit more from Soul Drain kind of balances it out. Oppressive Gloom and Cloak of Fear hurting brutes fury generation also tips things toward scrappers (since Oppressive Gloom and Cloak of Fear add to survivability) With the recent fury changes, it's really more of a case of which playstyle you prefer anymore. |
I play a stone/dark brute who almost never gets attacked, due to Gloom and spamming Fault. Honestly, I think the whole fury issue is blown out of proportion. Just keep attacking at a regular pace and you'll be fine.
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D,oh! You're right. I had the patron pools mixed up, forgot tanks got brute pools instead of scrappers.
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Originally Posted by Terror1
scrappers get dark blast, tankers get gloom
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
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It makes sense, but in practice it doesn't really interfere that much with Fury generation. Although as I think about it, I'm making this statement based on the pre-I18* rules for Fury generation, I haven't played my Dark/Dark Brute since I18 went Live. Since Fury now decays more slowly below a certain percentage (what is it, 80%?), I'm thinking this will improve a Dark Brute's ability to maintain Fury post-I18.|
Originally Posted by Post_Apocalypse
Hello everyone,
I've just recently rolled a Dark/Dark Brute, and was teaming with somone who said that Dark/Dark scrappers are better. Now I dont want this to be a Scrapper vs Brute thread, but he brought up a good point, Opressive Gloom and cloak of fear stop a Brute from getting the fury that is needed in battle. Anyone out there think this makes sense? Im thinking about re-rolling because of that, but not sure if its entirly true. Thanks. |
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| I play a stone/dark brute who almost never gets attacked, due to Gloom and spamming Fault. Honestly, I think the whole fury issue is blown out of proportion. Just keep attacking at a regular pace and you'll be fine. |
*I typed this as I8 at first...can't believe the game has come this far.
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Hello everyone,
I've just recently rolled a Dark/Dark Brute, and was teaming with somone who said that Dark/Dark scrappers are better. Now I dont want this to be a Scrapper vs Brute thread, but he brought up a good point, Opressive Gloom and cloak of fear stop a Brute from getting the fury that is needed in battle. Anyone out there think this makes sense? Im thinking about re-rolling because of that, but not sure if its entirly true.
Thanks.