Hell on Earth..

What is a good basic setup for HoE? I see it can be slotted with accuracy and to hit buff. It also takes damage chips, but it doesn't seem to add to the damage buff according to mids, which leads me to believe the acc/dmg only affects the hellfire spawns.

I figure 3 rech, 2 acc, and one dmg for a basic slotting? or is it better off with a pet IO set in it?

mule'd with procs and one recharge for me.

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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl [*]Watching out for the Spinning Disco Portal of D00M!*

I've been going with 2 level 50 Recharge IO's and the 2 Recharge Pet procs in my test builds.

(I haven't actually gotten around to making a demon summoner yet, so I could easily be wrong, but going by Mid's that's my plans)

Thugs (Gang War), Necromancers (Soul Extraction), and Demon Summoners (Hell on Earth) get the capability of slotting BOTH the Pet procs and the Recharge Pet procs. Resulting in +10% Defense to all and +20% Resistance to all for thier pets.

it as a buff is pretty mundane.

It as a Resist/defense mule is exceptional.

Go with the smart choice and just use it during emergencies as a buff otherwise.

Well, If I were to drop, say, a blood mandate set into each of my summons and HoE, I am adding on about 15% def to AoE, Ranged, fire, cold, negative and energy. Combine that with Maneuvers and Scorp shield and Melt armor with IO sets, and I am closing in on the soft cap for def in most areas. I sit at med range most of the time, so would be protected well vs. ranged attacks plus having good s/l def for close range.

Weighing that vs. muleing it right now. The general concensus seems to be adding the Aura Procs with the def/resist IOs from Edict and Soverign correct? Plus maybe a recharge?

Talk to me about those pet auras... If u put it into HoE, does the aura only count for the hellfires that get summoned? Or would that aura be dropped on the demon you enchant with the HoE?

There are 4 "pet aura procs" available:

From the "Pet" sets:

Sovereign Right +10% Resistance
Edict of the Master +5% Defense

and from the "Recharge Intensive Pet" sets:

Call to Arms +5% Defense
Expedient Reinforcement +10% Resistance

"Normal" mastermind pets only use the Pet sets, but some of the "Special" powers (Hell on Earth, Gang War, Soul Extraction) can take the Recharge Intensive Pet sets, allowing those MMs to slot both sets.

The procs grant YOU (the MM) an always-on aura that provides the bonuses to your pets, similiar to the Supremancy inherent power.

This is the slotting I intend to use: (the normal pet slotting is my standard across all my MM's, the special slotting depends on which powerset it's from)

Pets: (any level 38+ is acceptable - but I do my planning with level 40's)
Blood Mandate: Accuracy
Blood Mandate: Damage
Blood Mandate: Accuracy/Damage
Brilliant Leadership: Accuracy
Brilliant Leadership: Damage

[6th slot is one of the 2 pet procs or a specific generic IO depending on the pet - with Bots for example tier 1 pets get a proc, tier 2 pets get a defense IO, tier 3 pet gets other proc]

This gives: 95.2% Accuracy, 95.2% Damage, +1.5% Recovery, +4% Regen, and a small Fire/Cold/AoE Defense bonus

Special Power:
Hell on Earth: Level 50 Recharge IO, Level 50 Recharge IO, Call to Arms Proc, Expedient Reinforcement Proc (4 slots)
or
Hell on Earth: Blood Mandate Acc/Dmg, Blood Mandate Dmg, Rchg IO, Rchg IO, Call to Arms Proc, Expedient Reinforcement Proc (6 slots)

@Soulwind : See, that's why I ask these questions! Ok, makes a bit more sense. Have to re-think this... I understand everyone's advice now. Must've been some kind of Soulwind mind meld or something

There may be alot of n00bs in MMO's, but this game has a lot of freakin' geniuses running around... or dare I say... Masterminds???

My Hell on earth runs

4 x Expedient Reinforcement and 2 x Call to arms

Acc/Rch
End/Dam/Rch
Acc/Dam/Rch
10% resist

Acc/Dam/Rch
5% Defense

Gives you

65% Acc
60% Dam
21% End
85% Rch

Also gives you 6.25% global recharge and 2.5% end recovery from the 2 sets.

Bah I read the title, I thought it was a comment about marriage

Yep that's my "standard" slotting for all my Master Minds.

I've never really noticed a bad endurance issue with my pets.

I've done a Thugs to 40, a Necromancer to 50 (my only 50 villain, I prefer hero side),
and 2 Bots MMs into the mid 40's.

I've never done a Merc or Ninja MM high enough to warrant an opinion on though, and haven't played a Demon Summoner at all yet.

The only pet that I've ever really had any endurance issues with is the protector bots, and even that's pretty minor.

If I had to guess, I'd say it's probably just a playstyle difference. I pretty constantly feed my pets with whatever insps drop as they drop, and I tend to run at just +1/x3-4 (after 32 that is). I've made a couple of runs at +1/x7-8 and it's doable, but not as enjoyable for me.

Edit: Although I do really like Brackner's slotting for HoE and will probably adjust my planned build to fit the extra 2 slots in and go with that over my original planned 2 recharge and 2 procs slotting.