Upgrade fail?
By
Call Me Awesome,
Posted on: 2010-09-06 09:19 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
First, what is the beep pattern and what is your power supply? Just for reference.
Now try this. Boot with 1 stick of ram and go into bios. Once in bios check to see if the ram usage is in ganged mode. If it is then change it out of ganged mode and see how that works.
Just so you know ganged mode means that each core can address all ram. Non ganged mode assigns a single stick of ram to each core. It can actually make for faster performance but isn't something you want to do if you have low ram which you don't.
If that doesn't work then report back for further possible solutions.
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I keep in ungauged because I didn't know what gauged mode was.|
Originally Posted by Mandu
First, what is the beep pattern and what is your power supply? Just for reference.
Now try this. Boot with 1 stick of ram and go into bios. Once in bios check to see if the ram usage is in ganged mode. If it is then change it out of ganged mode and see how that works. Just so you know ganged mode means that each core can address all ram. Non ganged mode assigns a single stick of ram to each core. It can actually make for faster performance but isn't something you want to do if you have low ram which you don't. If that doesn't work then report back for further possible solutions. |
Power supply is an Antec BP550 Plus 550W ATX12V V2.2.
Beeping is continuous long beeps which the manual says is a Graphics card issue but the net says is RAM. I swapped my GTX460 for MNPs GTX460 his computer didn't care and mine had no change. I also tried booting with his previous card (9600 GT) and it did the same.
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Gang gauged...the g mode is un...
After doing some searching on the web it seems that somebody who had your exact same problem had a bent pin on their cpu. Either bent when inserting it or pre bent. Admittedly this is only one person but since you and MNP can swap ram and graphics cards and only your system has the problem then chances are this is it, or else it's another cpu or mobo problem.
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CPU was checked and reseated after messing with VGA failed to produce results.|
Originally Posted by Mandu
After doing some searching on the web it seems that somebody who had your exact same problem had a bent pin on their cpu. Either bent when inserting it or pre bent. Admittedly this is only one person but since you and MNP can swap ram and graphics cards and only your system has the problem then chances are this is it, or else it's another cpu or mobo problem.
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MNP was quiet upset with himself when RAM was the last thing he checked (swapped PSUs and HDDs while trouble shooting). He also did somethings that made no sense to me but I'm no tech.
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MNP strikes again! Still having the same problem huh, maybe your MoBo is bad like Rick's. I sent an E-Mail to XFX, waiting for a reply.
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Well, it sounds like a bad stick of RAM; I'd download Memtest86, (it should download a .iso to burn a bootable CD) create the disk and then boot your machine from that Memtest disk.
Let it run for several hours, it'll press, fold and bag your RAM and tell you if you have a bad stick. Just out of curiosity does everything run fine with EITHER stick?
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Verify that your MB is sending the correct voltage to your RAM, I had a similar issue when I upgraded my memory and it did exactly what you describe when I was unintentionally undervolting the memory.
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He did mention a voltage issue but then we...wait is there Wolf Pack in here...|
Originally Posted by Emberly
Verify that your MB is sending the correct voltage to your RAM, I had a similar issue when I upgraded my memory and it did exactly what you describe when I was unintentionally undervolting the memory.
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He did mention voltage but I don't think that's been revisited since the BIOS was flashed (I didn't want to reboot).
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Both sticks have passed 2 hours test sessions in some tester on this CD I used to have to use on the old system if it went into sleep mode. Either stick runs fine on their own.
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Originally Posted by Call Me Awesome
Well, it sounds like a bad stick of RAM; I'd download Memtest86, (it should download a .iso to burn a bootable CD) create the disk and then boot your machine from that Memtest disk.
Let it run for several hours, it'll press, fold and bag your RAM and tell you if you have a bad stick. Just out of curiosity does everything run fine with EITHER stick? |
Yeah, it could be voltages. Seems like the normal voltage range for that particular ram is 1.65 to 1.85 volts. If your system is only providing 1.5 something that could definitely be it.
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Well ... the higher voltage goes hand in hand with the higher transfer rates and faster timings. They should have a DDR3-1066 or -1333 setting with more conservative timings that can handle 1.5 volts (which is the DDR3 spec actually).
But leaving them set at 1.5 volts while running them faster and at the better timings would be a problem.
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Alright I've manual set some things here is a list (I have no idea what most of this means):
Memclock set to 8x so RMA is seen as 1600(MHz?)
Voltage set form 1.5 to 1.6
Still unganged
Cas # 9t
Ras to Cas 9t
Row Precharge 9t
Min Ras act 24t
TwTR com delay 5t
Trfc 110ns
write recovery 10t
Precharge 5t
Row Cycle 33t
ras to ras delay 9t
Also Channel interlace and bank interlace are both enabled
Still no luck Lisar? I'm still struggling with Ricks' also. Currently talking to XFX support tho, they want a log of all my BSOD's so I'm gonna use his PC until it..........jk lol. I'm no expert but some of the comments on New Egg (which is where I'm guessing you got it from) but he says he was having problems with his mem, and when he changed it from 1600 MHz to 1333 MHz the system ran fine. Just a thought: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820211409
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Often certain memory types can be unstable in one type of motherboard and fine in another.
Personally I would look at which memory type other used to build a system on Newegg and use those sticks.
Another issue is memory timings, aggressive faster settings can cause issues.
I would from your posts assume the memory has issues with that board or those settings. I would slow the memory down to 1333 to see if it becomes stable if so incrementally increase power until you are able to raise the speed of the Ram - I would not go above 1.8 or 1.85.
Here are some notes from Newegg:
1. DDR3 1866(OC)/1333/1066 *To reach DDR3 1866MHz or above, you must install two memory modules and install them in the DDR3_3 and DDR3_4 memory sockets.
2. Having looked at your memory on Newegg and reading the reveiws - i would return your ram and get the Mushkin or G Skill Ripjaw series - slightly more money but far more stable.
Edit further research:
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800
DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Timing 7-8-7-24-2N
Cas Latency 7
A-DATA Gaming Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model AX3U1600GB2G9-2G
DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Timing 9-9-9-24
Cas Latency 9
The quality difference is very apparent in the CAS latency and timings - the higher quality Ram (G Skill) is MUCH lower in latency (lag) and the lower timings mean faster as well.
MNP bought me new parts so I can use ultra mode but I've hit an issue.
The new motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 and I got A-DATA Gaming Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 RAM (AX3U1600GB2G9-2G).
The issue is I can not boot reliably with both sticks of RAM in this board.
I can boot fine with either stick of RAM and run for days but If I stick both RAM in any slot combination (I ended up writing a chart to make sure I didn't miss any combination) the system becomes unstable either failing to POST (gives beeps indicating RAM issue) or booting to windows (scary fast when it works) and then BSOD anywhere between 10 minutes to 4 hours later (normally followed by a failed POST).