I recently went through and did all these badges on my main villain. It wasn't nearly the pain I remembered it being when I got the same badges on my hero back in Issue 9 and cost far, far less inf.
That said, they're still not "fun," but the time-consuming nature of these badges is what keeps everyone from having them, even though everyone has an equal opportunity to earn them.
Personally, I'd limit the number of enhancements that one needs to craft per memorization badge to be no more than the 10 enhancements a single character can hold at a time and call it fix't.
The total invention badges, on the other hand, could benefit from being further reduced or made global. Pretty much nobody is going to craft 2000 items in the course of standard gameplay unless they've been nominated their SG's official crafter or something.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
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Not supposed to be fun. Its a time sink which rewards the player with 1/2 price crafting anywhere they want to do it.
Yes. I agree having it global would be great, even if its just the accolade and crafting table, but with the email system its kinda moot. I now use two accounts at the same time, one shopper emailing the recipes and salvage to the crafter.
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I see where you are coming from, yes, it is a reward that people will have to work toward. But this is a game, and if it's not fun, than what is the point? As little a change as making them global badges seems, it would make the reward much more worth getting, and in turn, making it more fun to work toward.|
Originally Posted by James_Donner
Not supposed to be fun. Its a time sink which rewards the player with 1/2 price crafting anywhere they want to do it.
Yes. I agree having it global would be great, even if its just the accolade and crafting table, but with the email system its kinda moot. I now use two accounts at the same time, one shopper emailing the recipes and salvage to the crafter. |
And so, you can make all these enhancements for all your other toons, but then you aren't getting the credit for making the badges and getting the storage expanded and worktable on that toon are you?
Eh. I had no problems doing it on my Hero. With I9's release, I was using IOs starting at 7, so I ended up having most of them memorized by crafting for my alts.
Now that there's no longer any need to have a Hero and Villain Badger, and now that you can e-mail attachments to any character, I don't have to worry about ever doing it again.
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I've found it VERY entertaining and ridiculously profitable on every character I've done it on.
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It also drives quite a bit of the baseline market activity - salvage demand and crafted enh supply. Dropping that to account wide would take a bite out of things.
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Originally Posted by James_Donner
Not supposed to be fun. Its a time sink which rewards the player with 1/2 price crafting anywhere they want to do it.
Yes. I agree having it global would be great, even if its just the accolade and crafting table, but with the email system its kinda moot. I now use two accounts at the same time, one shopper emailing the recipes and salvage to the crafter. |
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Since there are rewards like unlocking salvage and recipe inventory attached to earning invention badges, I don't see them ever making them global.
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I envy you on both counts. I have found it extraordinarily expensive. The few IOs that make a profit don't earn enough to counterbalance the ones you have to delete because they won't sell even for 1 Inf. Mostly because you're competing on cost/profit with epople who have the recipe already memorized hehe.|
Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
I've found it VERY entertaining and ridiculously profitable on every character I've done it on.
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I think account wide would be a bad idea.
I think my only request would be to quit the nonsense about 50% level a and 50% level B and 1 more either. That is really annoying. either track it so we know what we need, or just combine them as we already know they have the tech in place right now for the "1 that can be either".
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And there can be limits to that. Make it so on each toon, you don't gain all those additional unlocked slots right away, but just as you level up and gain more slots normally, those extra slots would be gained along with them. 50's can gain from their hard work right away instead of having to buy recipes and grind crafting to gain these badges when they have already passed gaining these lower level recipes from drops.|
Originally Posted by enderbean
Since there are rewards like unlocking salvage and recipe inventory attached to earning invention badges, I don't see them ever making them global.
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Some of you are missing the point, you have this badge and you are overlooking the possibilities. Kheldarn, you have this badge on a toon, maybe two. But what about your other toons? Do you not enjoy gaining badges on all your toons?
I would bet money that if we did a poll on how many 50s have this badge on all servers, less than 10% would have the crafting table. That says something to me about the way this system of badges is earned.
However, along with my initial proposed solution, I will provide additional insight to possible changes that could make this much more enjoyable.
1. My initial proposal of making these badges global, making the storage gained gradually through levels as an increase to normally gained inventory slots.
2. Make the memorization badges global and make it so you just need to gain the inventor badge after that from the tutorial to gain the accolade. That way you still need to get to level 10 before you can get it, which is also the level required for sending emails. This is much like how the Architect Engineer badge is, and not everyone has this badge still, there is still reasonable work involved to gain it.
3. Significantly lower the number of recipes needed for the badges and make it so it is either/or not "you need x many level 50 and x many 45 recipes made to gain this badge, and exclude the "x number of total recipes crafted" badges except for how many are necessary for gaining all the memorization badges.
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Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
I've found it VERY entertaining and ridiculously profitable on every character I've done it on.
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Why wouldn't making this badge global be a good idea? This is one of the most expensive and time consuming badges and the prize is only worth the toons who don't have it..
I'm very happy to see that some people are using the fact that you can "e-mail" enhancements to your own global as an excuse to keep this idea from growing in a positive direction. Let's be honest, if you're satisfied crafting 60+ enhancements and e-mailing them to yourself one by one, filling your inbox 20 e-mails at a time forcing you to log onto the toon you're sending them to, and then logging back to toon #1 who has them memorized and repeat...how could you not agree more with making the badge account wide?
One time for this badge is more than enough.
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Oh, but you're wrong--I earned Fabricator early on. You know, back when it was 10,000 crafts. That's how I made my first billion, pretty much.
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At least there is someone out there who finds crafting 1000 IO's and wasting hours of game time doing this badge on every toon "entertaining and ridiculously profitable".
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Oh, but you're wrong--I earned Fabricator early on. You know, back when it was 10,000 crafts. That's how I made my first billion, pretty much.
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It is only 2,000 now.
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it's not 10,000 any more ?
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I had a profound realization today. It happened a long time ago too but I was busy so I didn't get to say anything about it, but the great powers have called me once again and have inspired me to proclaim this.
The invention badges, you know, the ones we need to make 50 (obligatory obvious exaggeration) of every level and type of badge to be able to get them memorized? This is unproductive and inefficient, not to mention not fun. So, it is something that I have yet to do because it is not worthwhile enough to do. You know what would make it worthwhile? Make them account-wide. You put the effort into getting these badges, but by the time you have them, you don't need to have them memorized really, because you have all that you would need. Sure, you can make more and send them to your other toons, or sell them. But really, how does that make it any different than if you could make it on those toons themselves, other than the unnecessary hassle? Especially now with the merged market, allowing us to trade between alignments.
Instead, veteran players will benefit from their efforts by gaining their worktables on all toons, and badge who-...hunters...who want to get all the badges they can on all their toons (like myself and many others I know) will have the enjoyment of having these badges and their benefits on all their toons without having to spend countless hours and inf trying to get it on all the toons they love.
Please, I ask the devs, make it so. Make this piece of the game more fun and worthwhile for the masses, wont you?