Domination doesn't work on chain jumps...
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AnElfCalledMack,
Posted on: 2010-09-01 24:44 in Dominators
*shrugs* If Elec doms were somehow woefully underpowered, you might be more correct on 'major issue.' Some dominator sets really like Domination, some don't need it that much. Elec is more towards the 'doesn't need it much' end of the spectrum.
its been discussed / known since before the set was introduced.
The Devs either havnt got the tech or the desire to add a whole IF layer of commands to pseduopets to summon different pets with higher mags if they are created while Domination is active.
Would I like them to? yeah! no Dominator set would get weaker with this, but a few (Hello Earth control) would get a little bit alot more powerful. Ultimately this would widen the gap in control between sets, rather than bring them closer together, and unlike most control sets, Electric has been designed with the knowledge that this is the way that it is with Domination and pesuopets.
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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl
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Static Field isn't affected by domination either. Personally, I don't view this as balanced... two of the three AoE control powers in an already very soft control set are not affected by domination?!?
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Balanced with what? Ice Control depends on Ice Patch and Arctic Air for much of the Troller/Dominator's career, and even with enough recharge to continually use AoE control... there's only two of 'em. IP and AA aren't affected by Domination.|
Originally Posted by kinaki
Static Field isn't affected by domination either. Personally, I don't view this as balanced... two of the three AoE control powers in an already very soft control set are not affected by domination?!?
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As stated, some sets lean more on Domination than others. The quantity of powers that gain from it isn't how they're balanced, they're balanced as whole sets.
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no. if that was aimed at me.
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Originally Posted by Talen Lee
You think Earth Control deserves to be more powerful?
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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl
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It was; you pointed out that Earth would benefit a lot from domination propogating to pseudopets. I was just checking if you think a buff to Earth would be warranted.
Earth (and anything else using Pseudopets) get the Controller versions rather than a Domi specific one. Your durations are Controller level rather than ones with Domi AT modifiers in them.
Doesn't really matter in the case of Earth, since Knockdown is unaffected by Domination and Gases is so fast to reapply a hold that a boss gets quickly held anyway.
The only glaring issue I see is with Arctic Air which could really do with being affected by Domination, there's no real reason is shouldn't be at all. Ice should get a rebalancing pass anyway IMO, Arctic should work with Domination, holds should lose their -knockback aspect and the AOE hold should be ranged.
Can you unpack why you think the holds need to lose the -knockback? Isn't a held foe already controlled?
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A boss on an ice patch isn't. All you're doing is freeing him up from Ice Patch for however long it takes for the power to recharge so he can smash your face in.|
Originally Posted by Talen Lee
Can you unpack why you think the holds need to lose the -knockback? Isn't a held foe already controlled?
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In the case of things like CoT mages this is frequently lethal.
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It's one my Ice/Psi (and my Earth/Fire) had to a hell of a lot. |
Originally Posted by Talen Lee
Ahah, an application I hadn't considered.
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It's a nasty little choice: Do I hope he keeps flopping over and fails to get a mez off, or risk firing the first hold, hope it doesn't attract his ire or a counter-mez and I've time to get the second off.
For an Ice it's particulary nasty since the Patch and single hold are the two "Go to" mezzes you're frequently using.
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It's also a problem for Grav/Energy, and they don't even have good AoE control. Do I keep Lifting the boss, or put down the first hold and pray? Personally, I always opted for Holding the minions/LTs and trying to juggle the boss. Then again, I'm weird - I always liked Dimension Shift, because if you didn't slot it for accuracy, it'd split the spawn in two, and give you plenty of time to kill the first half.
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Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
It's one my Ice/Psi (and my Earth/Fire) had to a hell of a lot.
It's a nasty little choice: Do I hope he keeps flopping over and fails to get a mez off, or risk firing the first hold, hope it doesn't attract his ire or a counter-mez and I've time to get the second off. For an Ice it's particulary nasty since the Patch and single hold are the two "Go to" mezzes you're frequently using. |
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Originally Posted by Talen Lee
*shrugs* If Elec doms were somehow woefully underpowered, you might be more correct on 'major issue.' Some dominator sets really like Domination, some don't need it that much. Elec is more towards the 'doesn't need it much' end of the spectrum.
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Agreed, Talen.
I can more than live with the issue in the OP.
In fact, *ssshhh*. If we don't talk about electric control. Maybe they won't notice the beast that my elec/ dom appears to be and try to normalize it.
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Every Control set except Mind has at least three powers that don't benefit; if Illusion Control was available then there would only be three powers that do benefit. I personally feel that the Endurance refill and mez protection are more important. Though I do enjoy hitting Domination, Power Boost and then Glacier on my Ice/Icy Dominator. 
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As I said, though maybe not clearly, it would powerup most control sets, but ultimately push Earth too far ahead of the game. It would be nice if Synaptic Overload was able to do this, but other than that I'm happy.|
Originally Posted by Talen Lee
It was; you pointed out that Earth would benefit a lot from domination propogating to pseudopets. I was just checking if you think a buff to Earth would be warranted.
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Oh, and static field really should be agro free
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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl
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If we keep saying its rubbish, we may get buffed however. |
Originally Posted by Chyll
Agreed, Talen.
I can more than live with the issue in the OP. In fact, *ssshhh*. If we don't talk about electric control. Maybe they won't notice the beast that my elec/ dom appears to be and try to normalize it. |
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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl
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I'd been suspecting this and so I got around to testing it...
Domination will not affect the jumping portions of Synapse Overload, only the initial targets. This is a MAJOR issue for elec/ doms, IMO.
I hope this gets fixed.