Quick Question on Tips


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I know this question has probably been beaten to death here in these forums so because of that, I invite anyone with a quick link on this subject or maybe an easy answer. From what I read, in order to receive a tip, you need to fight foes level 20 or higher. You can only get so many tips missions a day, I think 5 is the max within a 24 hour period, does that sound right?

Yesterday, I took my Hero Blaster out and did some Vigilante missions to bring her to the dark side. I filled her 5 tip missions up. Not sure if that 24 hour time frame for more tips is an exact 24 hours since my last log in with that toon? This morning, I thought I would run a toon red side on some hero missions. I ran at least four radio missions in Grandville and one mission in Cimeroa and I received no tips which I thought was unusual because when I logged on my hero toon red side yesterday, I was immediately given two new contacts to obtain tips missions but I did not get any new contacts with my red side toon this morning to obtain tips missions. I double checked to make sure everything that needs to be enabled was.

Is there something I am missing here regarding tips? Thanks.







 

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Originally Posted by Fusion_7 View Post
From what I read, in order to receive a tip, you need to fight foes level 20 or higher.
That appears to be INTENDED, but exemped people are getting them from lower level enemies.


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You can only get so many tips missions a day, I think 5 is the max within a 24 hour period, does that sound right?
You can get an unlimited number (you might be dismissing tips where the mission doesn't sound fun) but you can only do 5 for alignment progress. That will fill up your... um.... alignment slots? I don't know what they're called.


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Not sure if that 24 hour time frame for more tips is an exact 24 hours since my last log in with that toon?
It's 20 hours and it tracks for each slot separately. When you fill a lot, it starts a 20 hour timer for that specific slot. It does not matter whether you are logged in or not during that time.


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This morning, I thought I would run a toon red side on some hero missions. I ran at least four radio missions in Grandville and one mission in Cimeroa and I received no tips which I thought was unusual
Sounds like bad luck. I've gone multiple missions with zero tips. Last night I got 3 tips in under 5 minutes in the same mission.


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I logged on an old toon to get tips and did not get any drops in 3 missions and also there was no info guy in my tips page. On the 4th mission though I got a tip drop and the guy showed up so maybe it's a lag issue with older toons.


 

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Originally Posted by Ironblade View Post
That appears to be INTENDED, but exemped people are getting them from lower level enemies.
Any time the developers heard about enemies below level 20 dropping tips they have plugged the hole in beta. I'd expect the same thing to happen soon for this too.

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You can get an unlimited number (you might be dismissing tips where the mission doesn't sound fun) but you can only do 5 for alignment progress. That will fill up your... um.... alignment slots? I don't know what they're called.
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It's 20 hours and it tracks for each slot separately. When you fill a lot, it starts a 20 hour timer for that specific slot. It does not matter whether you are logged in or not during that time.
Yes, it is 20 hours of real time.

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Sounds like bad luck. I've gone multiple missions with zero tips. Last night I got 3 tips in under 5 minutes in the same mission.
If you are trying to be a hero or vigilante (or stay either):
Go to Terra Volta, Dark Astoria, or Striga. Defeat bosses and get tips quickly.

If you are trying to be a villain or rogue (or stay either):
Go to Sharkhead Isles, Nerva, or St. Martial. Defeat bosses and get tips quickly.




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Another question: if I have 3 alignment tips, can I get more to drop, or is that a cap? Is the morality tip dropping part of the same cap, assuming there is one?

I am carrying 3 alignment tips and so far no morality tip has dropped. But I am possibly misunderstanding something.


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Originally Posted by Sailboat View Post
Another question: if I have 3 alignment tips, can I get more to drop, or is that a cap? Is the morality tip dropping part of the same cap, assuming there is one?

I am carrying 3 alignment tips and so far no morality tip has dropped. But I am possibly misunderstanding something.
You can have 3 alignment tips or 5-Public Fame in tips. The morality mission is not a part of the 5 counting tips in a day, but they do count towards the 3 max you can have on your character at one time.

You can only get a morality mission if you have reached 10/10 on an alignment bar, and only if you own Going Rogue. If you get a morality mission drop while not having Going Rogue, you will get an annoying popup message asking you if you want to buy Going Rogue:




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Originally Posted by Snow Globe View Post
You can have 3 alignment tips or 5-Public Fame in tips. The morality mission is not a part of the 5 counting tips in a day, but they do count towards the 3 max you can have on your character at one time.

You can only get a morality mission if you have reached 10/10 on an alignment bar, and only if you own Going Rogue. If you get a morality mission drop while not having Going Rogue, you will get an annoying popup message asking you if you want to buy Going Rogue:

On the plus side that pop-up has made it possible for South Americans to acquire Going Rogue for their accounts.


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Yeah, after I got back on with my red side toon, I ran a couple more radio mish'es and sure enough, the tips started coming and the tip info guy showed up on the bottom of the tip tab section.

So, this morning I was able to fully run the final Morality Mission with Ghost Widow with one of my heros. When I exited the mish, it put me right back in PI where I started blue side. I then went to Pocket D and got to the vator, a prompt came up saying I am about to venture to the Rogue Isles and I would lose any Hero Merrits that I have accumulated while on blue side. I went through and bam! there I was red side! Felt kinda weird. Heh, heh.

Now the next question I have is it now showed three bars in my Tip Window.
Hero
Rogue
Villain

I am currently considered a Rogue which was my middle bar. So, to be come a "full" villain, I assume you need to run more tip mish'es red side and you will get not two choice now but three, would that sound correct? Being that now I have three moral choice to make on my path. The thing that I am still a bit confused about is when I think of "Rogue" I think of "Villain".

The dictionary description of Rogue is: "A dishonest or unprincipled person - A person whose behavior one disapproves of but who is nonetheless likable or attractive.
As for Villain: "A person guilty or capable of a crime or wickedness - The person or thing responsible for specified trouble, harm, or damage."

So, with that being said, would I be right in saying that a Rogue Toon is less evil than a pure villain? basically 50/50 half good and half bad versus a villain being 100% bad?







 

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Originally Posted by Fusion_7 View Post
Yeah, after I got back on with my red side toon, I ran a couple more radio mish'es and sure enough, the tips started coming and the tip info guy showed up on the bottom of the tip tab section.

So, this morning I was able to fully run the final Morality Mission with Ghost Widow with one of my heros. When I exited the mish, it put me right back in PI where I started blue side. I then went to Pocket D and got to the vator, a prompt came up saying I am about to venture to the Rogue Isles and I would lose any Hero Merrits that I have accumulated while on blue side. I went through and bam! there I was red side! Felt kinda weird. Heh, heh.

Now the next question I have is it now showed three bars in my Tip Window.
Hero
Vigilante
Villain

I am currently considered a Vigilante which was my middle bar. So, to be come a "full" villain, I assume you need to run more tip mish'es red side and you will get not two choice now but three, would that sound correct? Being that now I have three moral choice to make on my path. The thing that I am still a bit confused about is when I think of "Rogue" I think of "Villain".
Read the guide linked to in my sig. Really, it explains everything you've asked. Guide to Going Rogue's Morality System - In plain English.

You should be saying Vigilante, not Rogue at this point as the terms are not really interchangeable, unless there is a translation issue with the game. Vigilantes are still sort-of heroes, while rogues are sort-of villains.

Rogues will see these alignment bars:


Here is the progression between alignments:

Hero <-> Vigilante -> Villain

Villain <-> Rogue -> Hero

Now to answer your question:
Paragon City Tips (blue side zones)
Hero or Vigilante:
  • Hero option.
  • Vigilante option.
Rogue:
  • Hero/Rogue option.
  • You will not be offered the vigilante option.
  • Some tips are labelled Rogue, but they are heroic tips.
Rogue Isles Tips (red side zones)
Villain or Rogue:
  • Villain option.
  • Rogue option.
Vigilante:
  • Villain/Vigilante option.
  • You will not be offered the rogue option.
  • Some tips are labelled vigilante, but they are villainous tips.




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