Plenty of people. Tends to be very expensive, though. With a single purple set (Coercive Persuasion in Decieve) and 4 LotGs, plus recharge sets in everything that takes it, I've got a +90.00% global recharge on my Ill/Rad (so +190% after Hasten and Accelerate Metabolism). My Phantom Army (with L35 recharge IOs for 96.5% recharge on the power itself) is at 62.1s recharge.
With Quick Reflexes from Secondary Mutation up, I *do* have perma (57s) - or would if I were any good at noticing the blinking icon as the 10s countdown happens, and it disappearing, for the PAs to begin fading away. 
My ill/kin is sitting at 93.8% global recharge so PA isn't perma out of the box. However, if I can double stack Siphon Speed it brings PA's recharge down to 60 seconds; difficult targets let me occasionally triple stack SS to further reduce that 57 seconds. It is expensive to achieve; mostly in getting the 3 LotG's I have in my build. However, there's still room in the build for more recharge. I could, for example, grind out the purple sets for AoE and ranged sets for an extra 13% or so that would give me perma-PA with two SS's.
I have been doing fairly good keeping shiphon speed 3 stacked. I can almost perma hasten. Which lends alot to making PA perma. And it isn't super expensive to perma PA not as kin
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The positive about Ill/Kin? With Siphon Speed you CAN stack buffs up to three times, giving you 60% Recharge . . . but it isn't all that easy to do it and you need foes handy to siphon off of, and you have to hit.|
Originally Posted by Hot_Head_Mike
I made this figuring siphon speed would help me keep Phantom Army up more often, but I'm very curious has anyone ever had Perma-Phantom Army??
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The negative? None of your awesome Kinetics buffs will buff Phantom Army. To improve the Army, you need Resistance and Defense Debuffs on the foes since PA cannot be buffed other than what is slotted in the power. One of the main reasons Illusion/Radiation is so popular is that Rad is the only secondary that provides BOTH a recharge buff and debuffs for Resistance and Defense. Several other sets provide very good debuffs but no Recharge buff. Kinetics provides the Recharge buff, but no debuffs. The buff from Siphon Speed, however, can be more than the Recharge buff from AM if you stack it.
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Um wrong kin might not debuff like Rad can but it does debuff alot. It debuffs regen, recovery, recharge, damage, and a couple others can't remeber. but every power you use on a enemy actualy debuffs them. And if you actualy look at it it debuffs them pretty good. Nothing like throwing down you heal and then come to find out the guy isn't regening any health, well not that much.
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Originally Posted by Local_Man
The positive about Ill/Kin? With Siphon Speed you CAN stack buffs up to three times, giving you 60% Recharge . . . but it isn't all that easy to do it and you need foes handy to siphon off of, and you have to hit.
The negative? None of your awesome Kinetics buffs will buff Phantom Army. To improve the Army, you need Resistance and Defense Debuffs on the foes since PA cannot be buffed other than what is slotted in the power. One of the main reasons Illusion/Radiation is so popular is that Rad is the only secondary that provides BOTH a recharge buff and debuffs for Resistance and Defense. Several other sets provide very good debuffs but no Recharge buff. Kinetics provides the Recharge buff, but no debuffs. The buff from Siphon Speed, however, can be more than the Recharge buff from AM if you stack it. |
Illu/Kin/Primal was my first (sorta) 50. With the new Recharge Intensive Pet sets, Siphon Speed and Hasten, my Phantom Armies are about 40 seconds apart. It's gorgeous.
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Um, wrong.|
Originally Posted by OmnipotentMerlin
Um wrong kin might not debuff like Rad can but it does debuff alot. It debuffs regen, recovery, recharge, damage, and a couple others can't remeber. but every power you use on a enemy actualy debuffs them. And if you actualy look at it it debuffs them pretty good. Nothing like throwing down you heal and then come to find out the guy isn't regening any health, well not that much.
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Local said: "None of your awesome Kinetics buffs will buff Phantom Army." This is true and also why Illusion is better paired with a secondary with strong debuffs.
Of Kinetics debuffs, which are all single target barring Fulcrum Shift, the only one that will be beneficial to Phantom Army is the -regen, preventing the damage they've dealt from returning. Recharge, damage, and recovery debuffs may aid the caster, but do nothing for PA. This is what has been said.
I suggest next time you read more thoroughly and respond less rudely.
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Hey hey I never said you can buff PA i know that quite well. And yes almost none of the debuffs will help your pets. This is what he said.|
Originally Posted by Local_Man
Several other sets provide very good debuffs but no Recharge buff. Kinetics provides the Recharge buff, but no debuffs.
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I was saying the statement Kin doesn't debuff was false. And he stated that Kin only debuffs recharge. People keep saying it doesn't cause they forget. Sorry for ranting on it. And sorry Local Man for being harsh. Just the other day there was that guy who said Kin was pointless and weak and I guess my mind thought back to that. Sorry misplaced correction.
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Which is not what LocalMan said anyway. What he DID say was... (emphasis mine)|
Originally Posted by OmnipotentMerlin
Hey hey I never said you can buff PA i know that quite well. And yes almost none of the debuffs will help your pets. This is what he said.
I was saying the statement Kin doesn't debuff was false. |
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| Rad is the only secondary that provides BOTH a recharge buff and debuffs **for Resistance and Defense.** |
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Random off-topic question. Did the chance for the sleep from blind go up? Just rolled a Ill/Kin (have a Ill/Rad as well, but it just seems too easy) and it seems that the sleep affect of blind is occuring at a more frequent rate.
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Jeeze . . . I don't know about that, but it is a very nice sentiment. I mainly pass on the information that many other people work hard to figure out. I try to be helpful and enjoy sharing my opinions. I also make my share of mistakes . . . and try to admit it when I have made a mistake.|
Originally Posted by Wiccania
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On the Question about Blind's sleep component . . . There are no indications that there have been any changes to the power. If it seems to be happening more, it may be that you are getting foes to bunch up more closely, or maybe you are noticing it more.
I have noticed it happening a few times lately, but I'm not sure it is more frequent. My main Ill/Rad has been my favorite to earn Hero Merits, so I have been running him through a number of Tip missions.
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My favorite thing is firing Blind into a tightly clustered group of enemies and watching one or two suddenly zonk out with the face-explodey animation of Blind.
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Originally Posted by Local_Man
Jeeze . . . I don't know about that, but it is a very nice sentiment. I mainly pass on the information that many other people work hard to figure out. I try to be helpful and enjoy sharing my opinions. I also make my share of mistakes . . . and try to admit it when I have made a mistake.
On the Question about Blind's sleep component . . . There are no indications that there have been any changes to the power. If it seems to be happening more, it may be that you are getting foes to bunch up more closely, or maybe you are noticing it more. I have noticed it happening a few times lately, but I'm not sure it is more frequent. My main Ill/Rad has been my favorite to earn Hero Merits, so I have been running him through a number of Tip missions. |
My guides:Dark Melee/Dark Armor/Soul Mastery, Illusion Control/Kinetics/Primal Forces Mastery, Electric Armor
"Dark Armor is a complete waste as a tanking set."
I made this figuring siphon speed would help me keep Phantom Army up more often, but I'm very curious has anyone ever had Perma-Phantom Army??