ran 1st respec and no badges

vill side no thorn robber awarded to half team some got it some heros and some villand did get it and some didnt.

I was full vill and got nothing

I hope these badge bugs get worked out soon

I was part of that run. A couple of people got Thorn Robber, a few had no badges offered, and one reported earning the Stalwart Medallion instead.

My assumption up to this point has always been that the game checked to see which respec badges you'd already been granted, and if you hadn't claimed all of those that the trial might award would then check to see if you have a high enough level to make you eligible for the next badge. If you were eligible for a badge awarded by the trial and had not yet claimed that badge, the game would offer you the badge and a respec as an option at the end of the trial. Otherwise you would just get an offer of merits.

(And prior to merits, you would either get the badge and respec or got nothing.)

If that were the case, then the game should have checked to see if we had already claimed the badges we were eligible for. And since at least one character earned a hero respec badge, I could see how I wouldn't be offered any respecs or badges since the game would be checking to see if my Vigilante had already claimed all of the Hero respecs (and I have.) It could have just been a case of not be eligible for Villain respec badges while a Hero.

Or, if there's a check to see how many respecs a character has banked (with three being the maximum allowed), I could also understand not having been offered a badge since I have three respecs banked.

Either way, I can see why I might not have gotted an offer of a badge here.

However, the characters that had made the full transition to Villain should have been offered the badge as a reward if the game were checking against the Villain respec badges. The evidence we have seems to indicate that this is not how the system works.

Instead, it appears more likely that there are a series of three flags on your character that represent a single respec claimed per trial level range - not per badge or per level/trial combination. If this is the case and the game checks those flags instead of the badges you've collected, then once a character has claimed three respec badges, they simply won't be able to earn any more.

A character might even end up with a combination of something like Stalwart Medallion, Thorn Thief, and Freedom Cross as their three badges.

If that's correct, then the question becomes this: Was this an oversight, or is this working as intended?

Edit: And it sounds like that question was brought up several times during beta testing and nothing changed, so the answer is probably "WAI".

Right. Essentially, the flags are something like this:

24RespecEarned
34RespecEarned
44RespecEarned

And not something like this:

StalwartMedallionEarned
StatesmanStarEarned
FreedomCrossEarned
ThornRobberEarned
ThornThiefEarned
ThornUsurperEarned

Buddy of mine submitted a /petition on this. The form he was sent basically stated "It is currently not awarding and is being looked into", but the text of it was essentially a low priority.

I think the issue needs to be addressed before the next issue. It'll take that long for the badgers to get all the day jobs.

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My situation is similar, my Warshade toon is almost 6 years old and i have done all 3 Terra Volta trials and as a vigilante i was on a treespec and recieved no badge. I expected as such. Then i finally made the switch to full villain and ran the 2nd and 3rd treespec's. No badge either time.

After almost a week of going back and forth with support this is what i got from the GM in support, I just want my badges! =( :


That's where the problem currently lies, and it seems to have more to do with the fact that the in-game mechanic for tracking respec badges isn't working as intended than anything else. Let me give you an example to clarify what I mean:

My Scrapper, Joe Bob, runs the hero-side respec trials at level 24 and 34 (skipping the level 44 one) and gets both of the respec badges and the respecs for those trial completions. Then Joe Bob switches sides and becomes a villain. After doing that, he runs the villain respec trials at all three levels (24, 34 and 44). Joe Bob only gets the villain-side respec badge for the level 44 trial because that's the one he didn't get on the hero-side before switching (remember, he didn't run that trial on the hero-side before switching). So in total, Joe Bob has these respec badges from both sides:

*Stalwart Medallion (Hero, level 24 Terra Volta respec badge)
*Statesman Star (Hero, level 34 Terra Volta respec badge)
*Thorn Usurper (Villain, level 44 Tree of Thorns respec badge)

Do you see how the effects are being totaled?

The mechanics, as they're currently working, don't seem to be comprehensively including all of the respec badges from both sides. Instead, they seem to be mutually excluding badges based on what's already been completed on the opposite side. As was noted in the discussion thread we linked earlier, this probably relates to alignment requirements to some extent.

No, we don't have an ETR on when this will be fixed. Even so, this issue has been reported and classified as a bug. Hopefully a fix can be made sooner rather than later.

In the meantime, you're welcome to keep an eye on that thread for any updates to the matter as they unfold.

Regards,
GM Grackle
The City of Heroes Support Team

I'm shocked! A GM that actually knows the exact problem and they expressed the problem properly. A lot of times it requires patient explaining to the GMs what is happening with a badge.

That is exactly what is happening.

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yes it put me at ease a bit but i only got this after a week insisting through emails that something was wrong (and i wasnt crazy) and the getting the black scorpion thread link about alignment badges. But in the end at least we know something.