I suppose it would have been nice if they could have used more "alignment neutral" names for the ATs because things like a heroic Corrupter or a villainous Peacebringer do sound a bit strange now.
As far as old redside villains not getting Empathy I don't really think it had a whole lot to do with the idea that Empathy sounds "too heroic". That explanation seems reasonable when you say it fast, but I think the real reason was a power balance issue. I think they were just worried that Empathy as a powerset, when paired with other villain AT powersets, was just too powerful.
Sure they may still eventually proliferate it to the traditional redside ATs eventually.
But I'm not going to -assume- it's going to happen. 
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i actually made my PB villain and my WS villain, and several other former heros and it always feels wierd to be playing hero ATs in the rogue isles
and also, when a stalker goes blue side assassination strike should be renamed "bunny hugs", and a rainbow should fly out.
and who says there aren't heroic stalkers anyway? Ever see Superman Returns? Superman stalked the crap out of Lois Lane through the whole movie. creeepy.
kidding aside, I get your point. I think Lothic's probably right in that they used the ''lore'' to cover a balance concern, but who knows. maybe we'll get more proliferation soon.
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The Punisher, Rorschach and Wolverine told me they disagree with the whole good and bad vs heroic and villianous archetype classifications in CoX.|
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Going Rogue's side switching kind of messes up the nomenclature of the game's archetypes and powersets. We will now have heroic stalkers and heroic corrupters. Also, I believe the original reason for not giving empathy to currupters and instead making pain domination was because empathy was seen as "too heroic". Well, that reason no longer holds any water so do you think we will ever see the empathy and pain domination powersets proliferate?
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And lol @ "and also, when a stalker goes blue side assassination strike should be renamed "bunny hugs", and a rainbow should fly out."
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"when a stalker goes blue side, assassination strike should be renamed "bunny hugs", and a rainbow should fly out" -Harbinger-
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Er yea...but those three are also in the "Look at me funny and I'll shoot/beat/stab you in the face" archetype.|
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The Punisher, Rorschach and Wolverine told me they disagree with the whole good and bad vs heroic and villianous archetype classifications in CoX.
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Also known as the "Badass" archetype...it transcends normal classification.
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They're all vigilantes. The Punisher is a Blaster, Wolverine is a Scrapper, Rorschach is probably a Scrapper too....all heroic ATs gone vigilante. I don't see what the problem is.|
Originally Posted by CrazyJerseyan
The Punisher, Rorschach and Wolverine told me they disagree with the whole good and bad vs heroic and villianous archetype classifications in CoX.
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Batman or Electra could be considered heroic/vigilante Stalkers. Definition of "stalk" from dictionary.com: to pursue or approach prey, quarry, etc., stealthily. There is nothing inherently villainous about that.
As for Corruptors, now that mine is a Rogue in Paragon the AT name finally makes sense. Think about it, there is nobody to corrupt in the Rogue Isles, they are already corrupt. It's a dumb name for an AT, always has been.
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Villainous Peacebringers make perfect sense - they bring peace by killing all thsoe who oppose their plans for world domination 
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Id say badass heroes all the same. The point being these are good examples of "heroes" that walk the line.|
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Er yea...but those three are also in the "Look at me funny and I'll shoot/beat/stab you in the face" archetype.
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The actual "badass" archetype is more like Galactus cuz he eats planets for appetizers.
"Forum PvP doesn't give drops. Just so all of you who participated in this thread are aware." -Mod08-
"when a stalker goes blue side, assassination strike should be renamed "bunny hugs", and a rainbow should fly out" -Harbinger-
Going Rogue's side switching kind of messes up the nomenclature of the game's archetypes and powersets. We will now have heroic stalkers and heroic corrupters. Also, I believe the original reason for not giving empathy to currupters and instead making pain domination was because empathy was seen as "too heroic". Well, that reason no longer holds any water so do you think we will ever see the empathy and pain domination powersets proliferate?