If it's anything like how the tier 5 used to be, the next person from the supergroup who logs in gets it, reguardless of what rank they are
Then again, I haven't messed around with supergroups and side switching so I can't give a definite answer on that.
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It should pass to the next person to log in of the highest rank that is not past the expiration date. So as long as you have a T4 who has not avoided logging in past the auto-demote date, it will be a Tier 4 rank who gets the Tier five rank.
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Originally Posted by Tylerst
If it's anything like how the tier 5 used to be, the next person from the supergroup who logs in gets it, reguardless of what rank they are
Then again, I haven't messed around with supergroups and side switching so I can't give a definite answer on that. |
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I don't think the auto-demote feature has any affect on anyone other than the Red Star leader anymore.
It might follow a "most senior highest ranked person gets it" rule if you have multiple SG members online when the Red Star leader (for whatever reason) loses the star. But I'm reasonably sure if the Red Star person loses the star and no one else is online when it happens then the very next eligible person to log in (regardless of rank) will get it.
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I went villain and the star went to the previous holder. He wasn't logged in at the time either.
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I recommend that if your SL character will be switching sides, you designate and promote an alt of yours to take the SL place.
So far, I've seen the system just randonly throw the SL Star around like a frisbee. Atleast by promoting an alt, you know you're not gonna get screwed.
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To be clear did the star go to him instantly or was he the very next person to log in?|
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I went villain and the star went to the previous holder. He wasn't logged in at the time either.
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Also were there any other SG members logged in or were you the only one at the time you became a villain?
Just trying to make sure because there seems to be a lot of vagueness about all the "rules" related to this.
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according to the patch notes for Issue 18:
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When a Supergroup leader tries to switch sides, a popup appears telling them the consequences of the alignment shift, which is that they will be removed from their leader rank if they switch their alignment to the opposing side.
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not having seen this happen yet, I would assume (dirty word, I know) that, immediately, the red star would pass to the next highest ranking person in the SG. Whether they were online or not. That's just me and my crazy thinking process though.
However, things might have changed with int the last couple of patch notes.
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He wasn't online and hadn't been online in several days. I logged in imediatley after going red with an alt to see if my alt would get it. I believe it's based on TIME in the SG.
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Right. When the current SuperLeader quits or becomes ineligible (logged out too long or switches alignment), the "next in line" is decided based on when the Leaders joined the SG. If the "oldest" one has been offline more than the number of days set by the SG, it checks the next leader down the line until it finds the oldest one that is still "active". If none are eligible, it then checks the next rank down, etc.|
Originally Posted by pyrite
He wasn't online and hadn't been online in several days. I logged in imediatley after going red with an alt to see if my alt would get it. I believe it's based on TIME in the SG.
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Being the last or next one to log in should have no bearing on being promoted unless EVERY other member is beyond the set number of days. In that case, you would be the only one within the designated number of days and given the star upon logging in.
I believe the only exception to this (and possible reason for the confusion) was when the Super Leader rank was first added to the game, the position was granted to the highest leader who was most recently logged in. That should have been a 1-time occurrence for each SG to create the position. After that, it follows the same rules the Leader position did before (as a few people explained above).
I appreciate the attempt to clarify this auto promotion/demotion issue, but for some reason it still seems as clear as mud to me. It's almost like you'd need to keep an offline spreadsheet to track everyone if you wanted to get a solid idea of who'd be next in line to automatically get the Red Star. And that's of course assuming this convoluted system is in fact "Working as Intended" and has no bugs associated with it.
Ultimately it seems far easier to follow Shadow Ravenwolf's advice and try to avoid letting the system auto promote/demote anybody.
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Several of us had this same discussion a couple years ago in the Base forums.
After some testing, we determined that it works like so:
System first looks at the next rank down.
Then looks to see if any toon of that rank has logged in within the demotion timeframe (ie, within the 15-45 days your SG has set it to).
Of those who have logged in within that time window, the star goes to the most senior toon (join date).
IF no toon of that rank has logged in within the set demotion time frame, the system goes to the next rank down... and so on.
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I still find it unfortunate the Devs decided to go with the "SGs must be alignment oriented" concept in the first place. 
I realize it probably made their GR development easier, but players should be allowed to have active members of ANY alignment they want in their SGs. SGs should be alignment-neutral as far as the game system goes, especially since the whole idea of PvP base raiding has effectively been shelved. Forcing the Super Leader of a SG to lose the Red Star because of an alignment shift is at best a sloppy kludge. Hopefully the Devs will rethink the artificial limitations they have imposed on us with this.
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The only problem is; the experiences of some people (like myself) completely contradicts the system you describe. We were never able to be sure whether those rules were wrong or a lot of people were experiencing bugged behavior.|
Originally Posted by Impish Kat
Several of us had this same discussion a couple years ago in the Base forums.
After some testing, we determined that it works like so: System first looks at the next rank down. Then looks to see if any toon of that rank has logged in within the demotion timeframe (ie, within the 15-45 days your SG has set it to). Of those who have logged in within that time window, the star goes to the most senior toon (join date). IF no toon of that rank has logged in within the set demotion time frame, the system goes to the next rank down... and so on. |
Anyway, that's all out the window now because we don't know what changes may have been implemented with GR. Our only clue is the previously quoted patch note item.... which, of course, only tells us how it is INTENDED to work.
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I know that if I go villian I that toon no longer has it, but who gets it? The next 5th tier to log in?
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