Soft cap but being hit 50% of the time still
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BrokenPrey,
Posted on: 2010-08-21 15:31 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
What are you fighting, what level are your enhancments and what are you exampd to?
Goodbye. Not to the game, but the players. Goodbye. Everyone, remember to have fun. That's all I can say.
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Lvl 45 and I have only crafted enhencements so level is irrelevent if you meant that I outleveled them unless lvl 50 enhancements do not work if you are examplared to 45 but I was told that they still work.|
Originally Posted by Terminal Velocity
What are you fighting, what level are your enhancments and what are you exampd to?
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Crey tankers and repair bots seemed to be doing the biggest hit but all mobs were hitting me that often.
Thanks
As somone on my server points out quite often, the RNG just hates you. Some nights it will be like that for a defense based character, and other nights you will never get hit.
However there is a big difference between being soft capped and having 43.5% ranged. I know that number is smalle, but that 1.5% does make a difference. However if you are using luck insps and still get hit then that fall back on the random number generator just not liking you.
As the other person pointed out, other factors can contribute to this. Rikti Drones, Malta Gunslingers, etc have a +to-hit bonus so that means they will hit you more often even if you are soft capped.
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An enhancements set bouns will only go down 3 levels. So if you have only lvl 50 then they will not add the set bonus at level 45, the power will still be good but the set bouns will be gone. Only Purple IO level will not matter.
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Originally Posted by GreenGiant
Lvl 45 and I have only crafted enhencements so level is irrelevent if you meant that I outleveled them unless lvl 50 enhancements do not work if you are examplared to 45 but I was told that they still work.
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2 arcs, different nights and every mobs in all instances...that's more than terrible bad luck|
Originally Posted by Novella
As somone on my server points out quite often, the RNG just hates you. Some nights it will be like that for a defense based character, and other nights you will never get hit.
However there is a big difference between being soft capped and having 43.5% ranged. I know that number is smalle, but that 1.5% does make a difference. However if you are using luck insps and still get hit then that fall back on the random number generator just not liking you. As the other person pointed out, other factors can contribute to this. Rikti Drones, Malta Gunslingers, etc have a +to-hit bonus so that means they will hit you more often even if you are soft capped. |
I almost got killed tring to herd about 12 mobs (repair bots and other bots) in the first mission I attempted tonight (took 3 luck and a lot of greens as well to stay alive) and last night I actualy got killed within 10 seconds after herding about 12 Crey Tanks. 2 or 3 were 1 lvl higher than me but most were my level.
I am not very lucky but there are limits lol!
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enhancements examp, the bonuses don't. That;s why it's important to have your defense monitor on at all times.
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Originally Posted by GreenGiant
Lvl 45 and I have only crafted enhencements so level is irrelevent if you meant that I outleveled them unless lvl 50 enhancements do not work if you are examplared to 45 but I was told that they still work.
Crey tankers and repair bots seemed to be doing the biggest hit but all mobs were hitting me that often. Thanks |
Goodbye. Not to the game, but the players. Goodbye. Everyone, remember to have fun. That's all I can say.
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That would explain! thanks! I was told the IO still works when examplared so I thought I was still near cap.|
Originally Posted by BrokenPrey
An enhancements set bouns will only go down 3 levels. So if you have only lvl 50 then they will not add the set bonus at level 45, the power will still be good but the set bouns will be gone. Only Purple IO level will not matter.
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Do I still get the base def % of IO or do I lose those as well?
thanks
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There is a tool in game that monitor the stats in game? where is it?
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Originally Posted by Terminal Velocity
enhancements examp, the bonuses don't. That;s why it's important to have your defense monitor on at all times.
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It's useful for most stats, and it's in power---> advanced options(or whatever it's called) And left click what it is you want to monitor and select monitor XXX.
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Originally Posted by GreenGiant
There is a tool in game that monitor the stats in game? where is it?
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Goodbye. Not to the game, but the players. Goodbye. Everyone, remember to have fun. That's all I can say.
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if it is in the Powers window where all our powers are listed then I see no Advanced options there or anything looking like that in there and right clicking does nothing.
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Originally Posted by Terminal Velocity
It's useful for most stats, and it's in power---> advanced options(or whatever it's called) And left click what it is you want to monitor and select monitor XXX.
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On your tray, Power Tab --> Combat Attribrutes.
You can see all numbers there. Right click on any you want to monitor and select "Monitor X" and it will pop up a tiny window with that.
On defense based characters I keep all the defenses that apply to me on screen.
*checks game* Top left corner, combat atrributes. I said "or whatever it's called" for a reason.
Goodbye. Not to the game, but the players. Goodbye. Everyone, remember to have fun. That's all I can say.
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Ahhh! thanks! I once clicked on the checkbox beside it and it did nothing so I left that spot alone, never thought about clicking on the words hehe|
Originally Posted by Tormentoso
On your tray, Power Tab --> Combat Attribrutes.
You can see all numbers there. Right click on any you want to monitor and select "Monitor X" and it will pop up a tiny window with that. On defense based characters I keep all the defenses that apply to me on screen. |
ranged and aoe are 33% so that explains much
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Originally Posted by GreenGiant
That would explain! thanks! I was told the IO still works when examplared so I thought I was still near cap.
Do I still get the base def % of IO or do I lose those as well? thanks |
If you want to monitor your defense values at all times:
- Click on the Powers tab on your tray.
- Click on Combat Attributes.
- Open up the Defense section.
- Right-click on the Defense type/position you want and select "Monitor *INSERT NAME HERE* Defense"
Like in this image. Right next to my HP bar. Click for full-size (1920x1080).
Clicking on the linked image above will take you off the City of Heroes site. However, the guides will be linked back here.
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Ok wait, I dont quite get it. You took handclap?
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
If you want to monitor your defense values at all times:
Like in this image. Right next to my HP bar. Click for full-size (1920x1080). |
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Is that... Is that a table over to the right? What did you guys do, interrupt his dinner?
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
If you want to monitor your defense values at all times:
Like in this image. Right next to my HP bar. Click for full-size (1920x1080). |
Probably for the same reason my 95% to-hit chance attacks seems to miss every other hit or even a couple of times in a row some days. 
My scrapper sometimes encounters what you are talking about. It's why she carries more orange inspirations than purples these days. I can always hit Elude and max out defense, but if they are hitting anyway only DR & Regen can help save you.
I also recommend making a chat tab exclusively for hit rolls. This makes it easy to scroll through and see what happened in a fight, if you're just getting unlucky with the RNG or if the mobs have a higher-than-expected chance to hit you.
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This is what I do and every now and then something odd shows up.|
Originally Posted by Intrinsic
I also recommend making a chat tab exclusively for hit rolls. This makes it easy to scroll through and see what happened in a fight, if you're just getting unlucky with the RNG or if the mobs have a higher-than-expected chance to hit you.
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Like the DE I was fighting in tip missions the other day. Now I'm claws/SR and used to the idea of them buffing their to hit something silly with Quartz eminators but it seemed to me they were hitting me too often even when I pulled them away from the eminators and around a corner. Hmm logs say they have a 27% or so chance to hit me?!?. Next step was using a Analyzer on them ... roh ro, they not only have those blasted eminators, their base chance to hit, according to the analyzer, is 64% ... weird but it would explain the pounding I'm getting as that means my "soft cap" is not 45% but 59%, effectively they are dropping me well off the soft cap and unlike a mob using To Hit buffs there's no aura or graphics fx to warn me. Started using those small lucks instead of converting them and they started whiffing as expected.
I wasn't unlucky, it was my Defense that wasn't cap like I thought it was because I got examplared to a level where the IO bonuses weren't applied.
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This is why most people buy up recipes at levels lower than 50 for their IO'd-out builds, so they don't unexpectedly lose a precious set bonus when they exemp down with a crucial non-purple set.|
Originally Posted by GreenGiant
I wasn't unlucky, it was my Defense that wasn't cap like I thought it was because I got examplared to a level where the IO bonuses weren't applied.
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Level 32 is what I was told to be the magic number for when SO's and IO's are of equivalent effectiveness, and beyond that the IO's outperform SO's without factoring in set bonuses. This is why most builds you see use as many 30-ish IO sets as possible.
Hi,
I'm doing the lvl 45 pillar missions for the second times and even though my character is soft cap or near enough (about 43.5% ranged), I get hit about 50% of the time by the mobs even after taking several luck inspirations.
Is there something special that suppress defense in those missions?
my difficulty setting is +0/x2
Thanks