Ice Dom - defender or corr?

I'd like to make an ice dom for when GR hits, but I'm torn between either going corr or def.

Normally this is a straight-cut issue of buffage > defender and moar damage > corr, but cold dom is an oddity in that its -res debuff is equal for both corrs and defenders.

So really for me, that just leaves the only important difference to be in their ice shields.

I'm also likely going to pair cold with DP if that helps.

*correction: that should be "cold dom". :s

Since the difference in the shield strength isn't that noticeable imo, I'd say it comes down to two factors.

How much of a factor is Cold being a late bloomer, (even moreso on a Corr), for you?

Which inherent do you prefer?

Corruptor. Scourge > Vigilence.

But then, you wanted an ice dom right?

I was a little confused, but between corr and def, even without my biased, pro-villains opinion, corr would still be better.

I think it comes down to how you value the Shields. Slotted out, the Defender will add 31% +Def to a team, 23% of that is of the "go run off and solo cysts" variety (meaning ally shields). The Corr gives 23% and 17% respectively. That's a very real difference.

While it's tempting to say the Cold Dom set is about equal across Corrs and Defs (Trollers too) because the two sexiest powers are identical (Heat Loss and Sleet) so roll a Corr, the standard Defender buff/debuff advantages do apply to all the other powers.

Still, for me it comes down to the Shields when I need higher performance (SG wants to do super speed ITF/LGTF kinda thing) so I opt for my Cold/Ice over my Dark/Cold for those.

Also note that your DP attack's debuffs will be greater for the Def.

Having said all that, my post is merely to offer a differing viewpoint in a thread that had a lot of pro-Corr support and little for the Def and I just wanted to offer support for Def. The reality is that either will perform very well and if you (the OP) have any preference for one over the other, for whatever reason (Corruptor comes first alphabetically for example) then by all means go with your preference.

I went with a Defender because I have Altitis badly enough that I'll never get to see the really cool powers in Cold Dom if I went Corr.

Think when it comes to defender against corruptor it is more what you want sooner buffs/debuffs or attacks.

I have cold/ice defender and fire/cold corruptor and love playing both and teams love shields no mater if they come from defender or corruptor.

Think that defenders are bit easier to level just because there is more people on blue side, but I guess that is going to change soon.

(I am so going to have trouble choosing between those two, also )

My personal debate is elec/cold controller vs cold/psi defender.

Thanks for all the responses so far.

I don't consider the power order to be an issue for me, since while it would be cool to get sleet/executioner's etc. sooner, I blow through the levels so fast anyway (8 man teams will do that--yes, even on redside I have little issue fielding teams).

With such a huge pro-corr response I'm leaning towards that route now, though you have made some good points Deacon.

I think I made a 'dooooom' topic about this very issue when GR comes out.Corrs trumpt Defenders when comapred side by side like this.

It isn't so 'doooom'y anymore due to the vigilance change but it isn't nearly enough sadly.

Deacon makes a nice point but you have to take inter consideration how much defense your team even need? if your playing with a lot of scrappers then that defender defense buff really isn't going to change much considering they already have mitigation powers. Not to mention IO set bonuses that people stack a lot. I'm not saying everyone has their defense soft capped, but most people already have 'some' defense and/or resistance. Squishy classes really shouldn't care about defense anyway as they aren't attacked that often anyway unless your on a team of 7 blasters +you.

Remember, "Death is the ultimate Debuff" and scourge gets you there sooner than later, whether in a group or not.

Also, Scourge stacks with -res and +dmg much better.

a defender's energy blast does 65 damage
with -50% resistance it does 97.5 damage

a corruptors energy blast does 75 damage (due to a higher multiplier)
with -50% resistance it does 112.5 damage.
with scourge it does 225 damage.

Corruptor attacks nautrally do more damage. But with -resistance or +damage stacked, it starts to scale up much higher than a Defender's damage.

I forgot who said 'Death is the Ultimate Debuff'
someone please remind us all who that was.

The -special debuff in benumb is actually strongest on a Controller and is a very rare debuff to have access to. If you are gonna have something rare then best it be as big and bad as possible.

I personally am thinking of making a Elec/Cold Controller come GR since the debuffs are glorious and Heat Loss will make the sapping even more potent.