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Hello!

I'm debating on what powersets to use for a concept I have in mind for a toon named Face Card. I'll go over the bio summary and show some pics and what my thoughts are on some powersets. I'd really appreciate any feedback you guys can give.

Rough summary idea (not what you'd find in the bio) : the character is a mutant with the following abilities: minor probability manipulation and minor shape shifting. The rest of his capabilities are natural - i.e. some sort of weapon. He used his shape shifting and probability manipulation to win big bucks at the Golden Giza, specializing in the card games (but dabbling in slots and dice games). He always shifted from various female and male forms to keep the Family and Johnny Sonata off his trail. Of course, they eventually catch wind of it and use magic (possibly the Blood of Xiang Xi) to prevent him from using his probability powers and take him out.

Realizing that he was too valuable to actually kill, they punished him by hurting loved ones and other typical mobster make an example out of you stuff. To circumvent his ability to disguise himself as male or female, they "marked" him by slicing up his face with a magic dagger that permanently scarred him. He can shift the scar around his face but can't shift the damage away. (this is mainly due to the fact that the scarred faces change location between male and female models - sigh)

He now has made a persona out of this situation to strike back at the Family and the Golden Giza for hurting him and his family, to start a life of crime to get more money (since his old tricks won't work now) and to generally be a nasty ****.

The whole Face Card thing comes from his background with cards and gambling but also due to his face being messed up. You know how some face cards only appear facing one side? The scar always being on one side of his face kinda symbolizes that too.

His costumes will be based off of the various face cards: a king, queen and a jack. Probably a joker in there somewhere for wild card sake.

My questions are:

What costume fits this best? the ones below are his King of Spades costume.

What powersets should I use? I'd really love Thugs but I don't like any of the secondaries to represent his probability manipulation. If MMs ever get Radiation Emission then that would work out well. Force Fields work in concept but I don't like the powerset.

I was also thinking Mace/Super Reflex Brute. Mace for the scepter look and super reflex for probability manipulation. I also liked Mace/Shield since you can get more playing card imagery using the shield.

Sword/Dual Blades/etc. works too due to a lot of face cards having swords in their art. Sadly there are some random axes and scepters too though (and I do have a DB scrapper already)

And finally Dual Pistols and Radiation Corruptor. I think DP may be a bit flashy for it, seeing as how super humanly fast the animations look but it could work. I much prefer the less flashy DP of Thugs but what can you do.

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Spade 2


Spade 3


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Love those costumes - well done!

As for powersets, my first thought was a Broadsword/Super Reflexes Brute. But then I realized that combo doesn't exist, so what about a BS/SR Stalker?

Then when you reach the appropriate level, you can take Mace Mastery and select the Wolf Spider mace for your other symbolic weapon.


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Thanks! Which face do you think I should use?

I thought about Stalker but I hate being hidden all the time. I'm a vain one. I like seeing my character's costume all the time. haha But I may go that route. I've definitely thought about Mace Mastery for any concept I play to get the extra symbolism in there. And based on what APPs Stalkers get in GR I may be more heavily influenced to play one.


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Thanks! Which face do you think I should use?
Well I'm partial to seeing the face, so I'd say #3. If not, then one.
I also might suggest changing the chest detail to a black-colored heart - but that's if you particularly want to play up his dastardliness.

EDIT: Oh, btw, do you have any designs for female-body costumes?

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I thought about Stalker but I hate being hidden all the time.
Well, I can't account for vanity, but you could work hir probability powers into hir Hide power as always making sure e is always "in the target's blind spot" - a modification of hir gaming skill to get around tells.

I agree with BS/ as lending itself to the iconic nature of the concept. I'll caution that /SR is an end-heavy set that blooms very late. You might want to consider an offensive powerset that is cheaper on end.

I'm presently playing a DP/Rad corr and enjoying it, you could definitely consider the /rad powers as being probability manipulation (which, actually, from the game mechanics it actually does manipulate probability, i.e. to hit and defense). DP/ doesn't exactly keep with his playing-card motif, though.


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Well I'm partial to seeing the face, so I'd say #3. If not, then one.
I also might suggest changing the chest detail to a black-colored heart - but that's if you particularly want to play up his dastardliness.

EDIT: Oh, btw, do you have any designs for female-body costumes?



Well, I can't account for vanity, but you could work hir probability powers into hir Hide power as always making sure e is always "in the target's blind spot" - a modification of hir gaming skill to get around tells.

I agree with BS/ as lending itself to the iconic nature of the concept. I'll caution that /SR is an end-heavy set that blooms very late. You might want to consider an offensive powerset that is cheaper on end.

I'm presently playing a DP/Rad corr and enjoying it, you could definitely consider the /rad powers as being probability manipulation (which, actually, from the game mechanics it actually does manipulate probability, i.e. to hit and defense). DP/ doesn't exactly keep with his playing-card motif, though.
I don't have a costume yet for her but I was going to do a Queen of Hearts, Jack of Diamonds, King of Spades and.. well maybe Queen of Clubs - not sure on the final face card. Wish there were 4 different types King, Queen, Jack and.. but ah well.

That's a very interesting take on the Hide ability. I rather like that and if I don't go with Stalker I may just pick up Stealth on whatever I do decide on. Thanks!

Dual Blades is cheaper than BS right? I know I already have a DB scrapper but.. Stalker and Brute play differently enough perhaps. I know War Hammer would have a similar issue with End. Hrm.

The guns aren't particularly for card concept but just a "Natural" offensive weapon. Any thug can do guns though I still think the DP set is way above any normal guy on the street, which is kinda why I like Thug MM and it's version of dual pistols better.


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Hmm - I've always like the idea of playing Ninjitsu. There are a few powers in that set that can play into Probability Manipulation too and there are some gadgets to boot to play into the Natural theme as well. DB/Nin? Hmmm.. hehe


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Great costumes. Screams MA/SR scrapper to me.


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Great costumes. Screams MA/SR scrapper to me.
Thank you. I have toyed with the idea of having him be a Hero first and thus a Scrapper while going through the events that changed him in the Golden Giza - having him become Vigilante or total Villain in Going Rogue.


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Check the stalker forums for DB/Nin - I've not played DB/ yet, so I don't know the end issues there. However, /Nin is probably the most popular secondary for Stalkers.


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And finally Dual Pistols and Radiation Corruptor. I think DP may be a bit flashy for it, seeing as how super humanly fast the animations look but it could work. I much prefer the less flashy DP of Thugs but what can you do.
How about DP/Kinetics? Kinetics seems like it would really work for probability manipulation: bad luck for enemies, good luck for allies.


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How about DP/Kinetics? Kinetics seems like it would really work for probability manipulation: bad luck for enemies, good luck for allies.
The one recent though about DP I had was that even though it looks a little supernatural/inhuman with all the flashy afterimage effects, I could maybe get behind it with playing the fact that his probability manipulation is putting him in the right place at the right time with his bullets so he can move all crazy like but it's actually him finding the right probable place to pump you fill of lead. I don't know. :P Kin is fun but that's a lot of redraw for DP and of course the speed boost bot is something I always dreaded (tho I have a couple).

The other recent factor is purely cosmetic with the costume - any melee sets make the warrior pads look like crap. They clip far too much and it drives me crazy. I tried out DP/Nin last night and discovered that. Now they work just fine with DP and other ranged attacks (mostly fine anyway).

If I want to keep him melee I have to change the shoulder pieces out and I tried this. Does it still look good? I think so but I got so used to the warrior pads that it gives me pause. Hehe. I'm way too picky I suppose.



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