Your Thoughts / Feelings on the Merger...


Aggelakis

 

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Just read this earlier today, and just wanted to see what others thought about the upcoming changes in the 606 (if it will even still be the 606). Here's the full announcement if you have not read the other changes as well.

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Originally Posted by The Ocho
"Combining the Multimedia and Screenshot and Fan Art Forums. Both of these sub forums deal with different forms of visual representation. Combining them should give those of you who frequent them a wider exposure to some great creative talent!"
Looks like we're gonna be roommates...


 

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meh


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I think it's somewhat misguidied as the two are pretty separate...

Can't see it being a gigantically horrible thing though.


 

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I just thought it was funny that one of their reasons for doing it is supposedly more exposure for the artists!!

Riiiiiight.


 

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Yeah. That's the part that seems misguided.


 

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I appreciate the fact that they asked for and listened to feedback before making any decisions. It's not as if they unilaterally made this decision and forced it upon us. It's not like they're having a pseudo-feedback period between stating their decision and implementation to make it seem like we have real input. It's not like the date for change is set in stone before the feedback period begins...


 

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Yay! So now I can see screenshots and video of my fan art! ...Wait. What changed?

Forumites will hopefully maintain clear titles on threads, so I can focus on whichever kind of graphic I'm in the mood for. Sometimes that is screen shots. We've had some good screenshot threads in the fanart forum before. I was not even aware a screenie forum existed, but awareness is not my forte.



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Considering the thread in Comics Culture discussing this announcement was locked down by Mod12, expect this thread to suffer the same fate. They want all feedback in the official feedback thread.

IMO, I don't think that Media and FArt should be merged... the two mediums are completely different; Media requires a hell of a lot more guides and question-answering for one thing. And FArt is exceedingly active, which means Media posts will pretty much be drowned out and lost in the shadows, which is sad.


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1 word, 3 syllables, starts with an i, and ends with a c. Take a guess, not many words fit.


 

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I've wandered in there before, s'alright, i think aggelakis makes a pretty vaild point. The thing is, I view the forums at work so i can't really watch movies...of course i'm not spose to check out the NSFW stuff either but it's 7:30 in the morning. Also no sound. So aside from pictures all other art is kinda wasted on me. It'd be a shame if the video folks got drowned in the shuffle of art, it's not fair to their efforts.

Guess we'll see how it happens.


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Originally Posted by Aggelakis View Post
Considering the thread in Comics Culture discussing this announcement was locked down by Mod12, expect this thread to suffer the same fate. They want all feedback in the official feedback thread.
Well seeing as how he selectively locks necrotized posts there's no reason to just assume this one will be locked...

As for where feedback should go...

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7/26
  • Announcement of the Changes
  • Removal of Tags and Reputation
  • Begin the Feedback process through the corresponding Announcement thread
7/30
  • Close the feedback process, including a response to issues raised
8/2
  • New Rules officially enter enforcement, and forum modifications take place.

So, 7/26 open feeback process. 7/30 close feeback process. 8/2 institute changes.

Why bother with feedback when the changes have been decided and scheduled? Ok, they want to bother because it gives the "community" a feeling of involvement and of being considered.

As part of the unwashed masses who they're seeking feedback from so they can possibly comment on it before ignoring it and making their changes anyway, I see no reason to bother with the sham.



As for who will be pushed out, why is everyone assuming it will be video? I don't go to the section much at all but I suspect that while it may have less regular participaters and posters, they probably get a lot of random views, specially when a new video or such comes out and everyone passes around the link... Good for them, really. But if those random visitors lurk around a bit and click some other subjects and find arts and stuff.... Well, I'm not sure I have faith in these randomites being as supportive as the people here generally are... And it doesn't take more than a couple random rude and/or insensitive comments to push away/scare off budding artists taking those first steps in showing off their arts for the very first time.



But hey! At last their gathering up our feedback so they can give a response to it before instituting their changes!!


 

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Holy crap, I didn't realize we were total xenophobes over here and our mission was to shelter artists from the terrifying world outside full of evil people and their evil ideas and evil opinions.

I wasn't all jazzed up about the merger... but to not want it because Multimedia might bring in some meanies?! We get a lot more random people dropping by from the FArt Competition voting every month.

This board has gone through a number of influxes and outfluxes of people over the years. I think it can handle some extra random posts without an apocalypse.

And why should a new artist be treated like they don't know its the internet and have never realized that mean people often have access to it? Wouldn't it be more supportive if they do get trolled to say "Eh, you'll run into that, it's the internet. No need to overreact." instead of figuring they'll be scared off for all eternity?


 

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Ok... So artists need to be protected from contests but not from the internet. Got it. Thanks.


 

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1 word, 3 syllables, starts with an i, and ends with a c. Take a guess, not many words fit.
Ironic?

Islamic?

Iodic-impubic-iatric-ichthyic-illogic-incivic-intrinsic-ipecac-isotac-iberic-ixodic-iridic-iliac-idyllic-implastic-identic-iambic-Icelandic-iconic-isiac-iniac-irenic-iranic-ionic?

ITALIC!! Yeah, this thread is totally italic.



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I don't think the FArt section will be affected too much. We post a lot, so our current threads will be on top most of the time. The media peeps will be scrolling a lot to find their threads.

And maybe they'll give the thread starters new icons to use to help distinguish what type of content they are posting so we won't have to open each thread to figure it out.


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Ok... So artists need to be protected from contests but not from the internet. Got it. Thanks.
All falls under the umbrella of misguided attempts to support artists, baby.

*waves hand* Eh, I'm sure I don't know anything about the subject anyway. I'll just stick to my ineffectual recruiting into the illustration program, meeting with several deans to lobby for more support, which helped to get a local artist a job teaching as an adjunct at the college and made more classes available.

What do I know about starting artists anyway? Certainly NEVER been there. Me and my silly worthless input.


 

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I never dismissed you as not having worthy input... The sarcasm quoted above was merely meant to show how I don't quite get how you think one is bad but the other is harmless.

But you've obviously decided to take everything I say in the worst way possible, and have stated you believe me to be a liar, so I guess future attempts to communicate are really futile. *shrug*


 

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You stated I called you a liar.... after quoting yourself exactly what I was referring to. In PMs and then that thread, every single comment you said to me was prefaced with "I don't mean to be <insult>, BUT..." Perhaps you don't realize this, but that "but" doesn't then mean you're not coming off as exactly whatever insult you started with. In fact, prefacing statements with that phrase is a big red flag that you're about to do EXACTLY that. That's not debating, and its not being civil, and that's what I got more than fed up with and called you out on. And "countering" any input I've ever given on a subject I honestly know more about with a parade of "I don't want to be a jerk, condescending, sarcastic, etc., etc." is dismissing that input.


 

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I hate it when forum family fights. Run Video people, run!


 

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I'm pretty new here to the boards. I've been trying to catch up on the environment here before I commented on anything. Now, just when I decided I could add my 2 cents to something, they are going to change up things for everybody . Maybe this is a good time to jump on board.

It seems that in addition to the merger, the increased regulations should hamper all the concern about additional mean people, trolling etc.

One of the things I wonder about though is the whole "bumping" and "necro posting" - aren't all the old artist threads considered old and instead of bumping your old thread with new stuff, it seems like the admins want you all to start a new thread every time you post new art related exclusively to the game. I think that would upset me more then the merger itself...