What secondary goes best with ninjas?


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PvE content, looking to make the ninjas more durable and optimizng their damage.

Which secondary goes best with ninjas?


 

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Not sure if it's "the best" but I absolutely love my Ninjas/Dark Miasma. The Resistance debuffs in /dark work wonders with the S/L attacks of the ninjas. Alternately, I've heard Nin/Storm is pretty good, and /Force Fields would probably make for a good secondary also, since the ninjas have inherent defense to stack with the shields.


 

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most secondaries are good for ninjas:
poison, dark miasma, storm, traps(and def) or ta for debuffing the enemies
therm or pain for heals and resistance
ff or traps for getting more def


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Originally Posted by BlackAdam View Post
make the ninjas more durable
Force Fields. Turns them all into */SR Scrappers with enough DEFense to LIVE.
Pain Domination has an AoE Heal Field ... but it's going to be nowhere NEAR strong enough to keep them alive against the amount of damage they'll typically take.

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Originally Posted by BlackAdam View Post
optimizng their damage.
That's a function of debuffing (mainly), as far as secondaries are concerned. Dark, Trick Arrow and Thermal will all be good choices for debuffing. Fair warning if you take Trick Arrow though ... it doesn't do a "great" deal to help YOUR Ninjas out, but it can absolutely turn the tide of battle when on teams, with Glue Arrow and Disruption Arrow and Oil Slick in the mix (among other things).

I've got a Ninja/TA myself, and it's damn hard to keep the ADHD children from killing themselves due to their miserable DEFenses. I usually have to leave them in Bodyguard mode and draw aggro onto myself ... so as to spread the incoming damage around enough so that no one ninja is eating all the damage by themselves.


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Call me a fan of ninjas/storm. It's awesome sauce in an economy size jar.

group TP is your friend.


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My ninjas/ff is a lot of fun. Once you get the Jounins' defense up near the soft cap, they're pretty tough. Only trouble is you have to stand near them to keep them buffed, so you'll get hit by a lot of AOE's that were meant for them.

I can't imagine playing the set without some way to increase their defense. Increasing their resistance won't help them much. So, the only really viable sets are: FF, traps, or dark. Some people enjoy poison or TA, but I get tired of having to re-summon pets.


 

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I'll go against the grain and say thermal is a good pairing for Ninjas.

The resistance makes the likelihood of a 1 shot less likely, giving you time to fire off warmth or cauterize. At lvl 32 I'm letting warmth (aoe) heal the jounin and the oni, and using cauterize for the genin.

I realize that force fields can get the pets closer to the soft cap, but I (personal me here) I find /ff boring....

While the lil suckers do love to run ALL over the map, I find macros to pull them all back to a group hug is enough to keep 'em fresh. Of course, I'm more than willing to accept I'm going to be kicking myself in the 40+ game, but I'm hoping heat exhaustion and melt armor are enough to make me smile.


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Well, I rolled a ninja/traps for now. We'll see how it goes.


 

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So far, I find Ninja/FF quite strong in PvE content but bubbling them gets really tedious. If you don't mind bubbling, Ninja/FF is great combo.

Ninja/Dark is probably your safe choice followed by Ninja/Storm.

Ninja/Trap can work. Just take Team tp as you can tp FFG with you.


What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.

 

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A good goto bind goes best with Ninjas.