Global recharge...does it stack?


Adeon Hawkwood

 

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The very rare purple IO sets all boast a 10% global recharge to all powers.

So, without hasten, an unslotted power that recharges in 100 seconds, will now recharge 10% faster, in 90 seconds. That much I get. (10% of 100 =10; 100-10=90)

Suppose I have two very rare purple IO sets - this same unslotted power that recharges now in 90 seconds, with the second set, does it now recharge in 81 seconds, or 80 seconds?

Or none of the above?

I realize that this 1 second difference is meaningless, I only use that time to make the math easy. I'm thinking about the longer recharge time powers, like blizzard.


Oh, one more question - is there a cap on recharge reduction?


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@Ukase

 

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See the article on paragonwiki.

The formula is:
RechargeTime = BaseRechargeTime / ( 100% + Buffs - Debuffs )

So filling in the blanks...
RechargeTime = 100 / 100% + 10 - 0)
90.909 = 100 / 100% + 10 - 0)

With 2 +10%s...
RechargeTime = 100 / 100% + 20 - 0)
83.333 = 100 / 100% + 20 - 0)

There's also a cap of 500% (or +400%) recharge.


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Yes, the global recharge amounts stack, but Recharge does not act in a straight line . . . as you get more and more Recharge, it does less and less. I'm sure someone can post the formula used. (Edit: whoops, somebody did)

Stacking Global Recharge is key to making a "Perma-PA" Illusion/Radiation controller, or many of the other best builds in the game. Hasten gives about 70% recharge when active. Accelerate Metabolism in the Radiation Emission power set gives 30%.

(Not all the purple sets have that lovely 10% Recharge.


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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ukaserex View Post
The very rare purple IO sets all boast a 10% global recharge to all powers.

So, without hasten, an unslotted power that recharges in 100 seconds, will now recharge 10% faster, in 90 seconds. That much I get. (10% of 100 =10; 100-10=90)

Suppose I have two very rare purple IO sets - this same unslotted power that recharges now in 90 seconds, with the second set, does it now recharge in 81 seconds, or 80 seconds?

Or none of the above?

I realize that this 1 second difference is meaningless, I only use that time to make the math easy. I'm thinking about the longer recharge time powers, like blizzard.


Oh, one more question - is there a cap on recharge reduction?
You can stack the same set bonus up to 5 times.
This goes by bonus name, the purple set bonuses are named Ultimate <Aspect> Bonus, which is different from a small, large, etc. <Aspect> Bonus

The formula for recharge is:
Base Recharge/(1+Buffs) = New Recharge (Buffs include recharge slotting)
For the example you gave:
100/(1+.1) = 90.9s
100/(1+.2) = 83.3s

The recharge cap is +400%, including all buffs and enhancements.
So the recharge at the cap is: Base Recharge/5


 

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Its additive not multiplicative. However, 100% recharge bonus only halves the recharge time of a power rather than reducing it to 0 seconds so the math isn't exactly as you're suggesting.

I believe the formula is power recharge/(100+recharge bonus/100)

So adding 10% recharge bonus means a 100 second recharge would recharge

100/(1.1) = 90.9 seconds

Adding 50% recharge bonus means

100/(1.5) = 66.7 seconds

Adding 100% recharge bonus means

100/(2) = 50 seconds

Adding 200% recharge bonus means

100/(3) = 33.3 seconds

So you can see there is a pretty quick law of diminishing returns as you raise recharge....and yet its still one of the most powerful means of increasing all your powers at once.


 

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Originally Posted by Local_Man View Post
(Not all the purple sets have that lovely 10% Recharge.
I sit corrected. The ones that I looked at (and the three sets I've got) all do. I assumed. Shame on me. Thanks for the correction.


And to the other posters, thanks for the answers!


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@Ukase

 

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Also since I don't believe anyone has mentioned it Global Recharge and Power specific recharge enhancements are added together in the formula Kitsune gave above.


 

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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood View Post
Also since I don't believe anyone has mentioned it Global Recharge and Power specific recharge enhancements are added together in the formula Kitsune gave above.
Correct - all caps (damage, recharge, defense) include all forms of boosting - enhancement, global, etc.


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