It's perfectly possible.
/bind CTRL+1 "powexecname Projectile Vomit"
/bind ALT+4 "powexecname Self Destruction"
Edit: Removed another mistake... not my day!
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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You can only bind chord keys with other keys. Chord keys are *ONLY* CTRL, ALT, and SHIFT.
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Originally Posted by Dispari
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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Not true, I just tested out the following binds and they ALL worked:|
Originally Posted by Aggelakis
You can only bind chord keys with other keys. Chord keys are *ONLY* CTRL, ALT, and SHIFT.
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/bind shift l moo
/bind ctrl l moo
/bind alt l moo
(then unbound them all)
/bind lshift l 1
/bind lalt l 2
/bind lctrl l 3
Every one of them worked as expected.
If you use both shift and lshift, the second one will overwrite the first one. If you bind shift to 'hi' and then lshift to 'bye', pressing the left shift key will say 'bye', and pressing the right shift key will say 'hi'. If you bind lshift then shift, both keys will do what shift was bound to.
Edit: Damn it! And I went through all that trouble to prove Aggelakis wrong and it turns out I misread the OP and their post! ... Off to Ouroboros to erase the OP from being ever born!
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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The OP is asking about binding two keys together. Only chord keys can be used in such a way. You can only bind SHIFT+<key> or CTRL+<key> or ALT+<key> (with L and R if you want to specify a specific chord key), you cannot bind <key>+<key>.
You cannot bind `+1 (an example given in the OP), you have to bind CTRL+1, SHIFT+1, or ALT+1 (with L and R if you want to specify a specific chord key).
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Originally Posted by Dispari
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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This part is wrong. You cannot specify L or R in a chord. Lshift and Rshift are used only if binding that specific key on it's own. If you want to bind Lshift to activate a power, you can, but you can't specifically designate Lshift+1 as a bind, and you cannot bind Lshift+1 and Rshift+1 to do different things. If you attempt it, it will default the command to shift+1 anyway, and pressing rshift+1 will end up overwriting your lshift+1 bind, and pressing lshift+1 will do the same action as you tried to bind only Rshift+1 to do. |
Originally Posted by Aggelakis
(with L and R if you want to specify a specific chord key)
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You can further prove this by creating a Lshift+1 bind, and then doing a /bindsavefile. You don't see lshift+1 in the file, but shift+1 will be there instead.
To simplify/clarify: You can use Lshift+1 when creating the bind if you want to, but the L wont actually do anything for you.
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Mousechord!|
Originally Posted by Aggelakis
You can only bind chord keys with other keys. Chord keys are *ONLY* CTRL, ALT, and SHIFT.
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(I'm used to Ctrl/Shift/Alt being called modifier keys, tbh)
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But Agg is still not wrong. The mousechord involves buttons, not keys. haha j.k|
Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
Mousechord!
(I'm used to Ctrl/Shift/Alt being called modifier keys, tbh) |
I love the mousechord.
According to the wiki, the FN key on laptops can also be used as another modifier. I've never tried it though, so I don't know how well that works when you consider the overlapping numpad on laptop keyboards. That could get messy.
Anyway, looking at the wiki, it seems that chord section does need a little bit of an edit for clarification about the way L and R keys work. Those should be listed under the Key Names section instead, and note that the L and R are ignored when used as a chord.
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Most laptop keyboards have the FN key operate entirely in-hardware, so it would be impossible for the OS to see if it's pressed or not (black magic might make it possible, but impractical).|
Originally Posted by Master-Blade
According to the wiki, the FN key on laptops can also be used as another modifier. I've never tried it though, so I don't know how well that works when you consider the overlapping numpad on laptop keyboards. That could get messy.
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Theoretically, there could be some keyboards that pass it along, but I've never heard of a keycode that Windows would send when it's pressed... so I'm not sure that it could actually work with the game.
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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This is 100% accurate. It has been this way for at least 2 years now.
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Originally Posted by Master-Blade
To simplify/clarify: You can use Lshift+1 when creating the bind if you want to, but the L wont actually do anything for you.
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That makes me kinda want to test it out, just to clear up the wiki. I've seen it listed for a long time as a keyname, so I did nothing but assume it would actually work for FN+X as an example. That combination has no other uses. |
Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight
Most laptop keyboards have the FN key operate entirely in-hardware, so it would be impossible for the OS to see if it's pressed or not (black magic might make it possible, but impractical).
Theoretically, there could be some keyboards that pass it along, but I've never heard of a keycode that Windows would send when it's pressed... so I'm not sure that it could actually work with the game. |
What you say makes a lot of sense though, and it would certainly prevent the mess of what happens if you bound and pressed FN+M. Would it actually send FN+M, or send Numpad0?
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Even though I'm not playing on a laptop, I just typed "/bind FN+M L hi", and checked the bindfile to see that FN+M does not exist. The FN was ignored and it simply bound it to M alone, and pressing M activates the bind. haha
Well that answers that.
I'd already tested it out earlier on my system and it had done nothing, but wasn't sure if maybe it worked on some obscure system. Updated the wiki to reflect that's not a valid key.
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
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Yeah true. We can't always count on everything working the same way. For all we know, some odd driver might add support for an extra modifier key. I dunno.|
Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight
I'd already tested it out earlier on my system and it had done nothing, but wasn't sure if maybe it worked on some obscure system.
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Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight
Updated the wiki to reflect that's not a valid key.
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Edited the L & R stuff, and pushed them into the Standard Keys with a note.|
Originally Posted by Master-Blade
Nice. I'd probably fix/clarify the L and R modifiers as well, but I'm always afraid I'm going to mess up the format of the tables when I edit stuff like that. lol
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I figured the Standard Keys section was the most appropriate, as that's the most appropriate use case for the keys. They can emulate a chord key behavior, but it's not how you'd expect, so I consider that more so an oddity, and 'shift+key' should be the recommended format.
Also adjusted the description of the Chord Key section to accurately reflect that they can be used on their own, not just with other keys.
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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Thanks. I've edited a few things on the wiki in the past, but I don't like messing with things that have a format. I bet it's easy, but I just feel like I'll mess it up. Not that I couldn't just easily figure it out and fix it.. but you know. lol|
Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight
Edited the L & R stuff, and pushed them into the Standard Keys with a note.
I figured the Standard Keys section was the most appropriate, as that's the most appropriate use case for the keys. They can emulate a chord key behavior, but it's not how you'd expect, so I consider that more so an oddity, and 'shift+key' should be the recommended format. Also adjusted the description of the Chord Key section to accurately reflect that they can be used on their own, not just with other keys. |
Thanks again. It looks great! That should clear up some confusion.
Trying to rebind my alt tray combos. But it doesn't let me use two keys (i.e. `+1) the same way that the defaults are (Alt+1, Control+1, et cetera). Is this not possible within the game interface? Do I have to edit the keybind file instead?