how many enemies are you fighting? From what range do you like to fight? Do you care that you'll be spending significant time not attacking if you don't have icebolt? etc.
enemies....a fair few. not really bothered about range, and i like being able to attack fast. Frost Breath just seems weak and slow.
Ice Bolt. I can't imagine not having that as part of an attack chain.
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ice bolt. I can't imagine not having that as part of an attack chain.
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going along leveling my ice/storm corr and i find my dmg is lacking alot, currently this is my build.....
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freeze ray just seems completely pointless, its only held for 15 secs and by that time all the enemies will be clustered together in a combination of School of sharks, Freezing rain, Ice storm, and probably lightning storm and if one runs out BAM bitter ice blast. And if there was ever need for holds im sure there will be a dom in the team.| Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1423;723;1446;HEX;| |78DA9D94494F535114C7EFEB60E9445B6A050A2D9499024F7088030B13509322354| |09DA2C6A6C2A3BC585E49FB20B273E34E37BAC02102EA475084E0CAA5C3528D5B57| |C611A31FA09EE1521C76BE84FFEFBEF3CE70CFB9BD242F1FF60871E590507C83B94| |CB1981ECC170AB33366BE604F66B2FAB8700821C265637A2C6364B5093531AEA507| |C0DF8C6E7D1A989D9C5453B09A4EA766A7A7F3866E640309634A2B6886A96E2EDC2| |3F97C4E3D9AD3B353A687D7BA6968C5A28B5E52339A3611A065C298D38BFA453DA7| |9BF38D4766F47175ABD6B036A767CCA98C914EC226B4C27C0D6CB313FE7A2D423E2| |59B5800B40BCB2DC66D82ED0EE32EE183527617E22AC4F6893E504566501E09346D| |7BCC582154AC32D6081FC1D7CAEE166B3FC06615AEBFB80B52DA654AFB2255F12C3| |19609950F180F09BB411DEC6E75BC869788F0BF61BC2554BD237C82D24EDA6AC9EE| |0C29185AE5226C7733BC841D950C1FC109A9DDB2653747B9C1E495266F33B565079| |38F730B1F9B1C600AB049090C2938BE9A53145F015F82FCC512BC413DD4DC248417| |087B40437200219E6998675ACF33ADE7994679A69F215735BBDBAB9F416C50449F5| |3A2E80B42E34BC62B064645C45E78A995456AF9E8637CF4313EFA181F7D331FFD17| |285227A75CF7841235AF32D6082DEB8426682E229B8B74D1FE5AFEC03E706B90751| |BB8B9366EAE8D9B6BE3E6DAB9B96F90AB49D66DDAA012EDDF193F089D3F091BE0D7| |2A87D0BA48A19D4B8C6542FC3E83BB8A73575F21AA436EA6638812751F630C33928| |49EE3841CFC74BB64735D2A1D664F9CD14DD92F81832AF3A92314B3739431C648F1| |AD3941780FFF4C7AE56DE84D52A2BE14E33A39D4DB7EBB702578C4F03F96115BF90| |60A852C892D9F92D35FBE4CFFFBAC7B36D339475DA029949328A751CEA09C453987| |721EE5024A1AA5F4B41CEDDB8FFB3A807210A51F2504FB13D7D0D381D7CC8DE241F| |1A254A2F850FC28419430CA3D94D22FAF280C09| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|
SO new build...
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Thankyou.
Quick note: mids says you have 2 extra 6.25% recharge bonuses. Tornado and blizzard are the ones listed as superfluous. Not sure what you would want to change to fix that, but it looks like you might need to swap a couple powers up to purple sets.
Oh....didnt notice that. :S dunno how im gonna change that
Hows that?
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Take both Ice Bolt and Frost Breath.
Take Ice Bolt, skip Breath unless you really want it (which it doesn't seem like you do).
Ice Bolt is a crucial part of any Ice/ ST chain, Breath is a mediocre slow-animating cone.
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Very true statements, however ST Chains are nice and all, but when your facing down a mob, that slow animating cone does dish out helpful damage in a AoE spread.
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Take Ice Bolt, skip Breath unless you really want it (which it doesn't seem like you do).
Ice Bolt is a crucial part of any Ice/ ST chain, Breath is a mediocre slow-animating cone. |
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This is why you skip it.
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Originally Posted by Fire_Minded
slow animating
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Well, it all depends on how you use and your secondary there Mac.|
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This is why you skip it.
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If its on a Dark Miasma build, it fits in fine.If its on a Kinettic Build, prolly not as fine.Get my understanding now?
It can work for some things, wont work for others.
For me, id take it simple because id Take Ice Blasts on a Trapper or a Dark Miasma Corr.
You're going to get more mileage out of a fast-animating and fast-recharging single-target attack than you will out of a slow-animating cone (not even a TAoE, just a cone, which means extra time spent positioning to make it useful). Just about the only time I'd take Frost Breath over Ice Bolt is if I had lots of global recharge.
For example, I skipped Flares on my Fire/Kin Corruptor, and use Fireball instead. I've got the global recharge to back it up (set bonuses + Hasten + 2-3 stacked Siphon Speed), and it's TAoE instead of a cone so I can fire it off when I'm in the middle of a mob after hitting Fulcrum Shift and not have to worry about not getting optimal use out of it.
Ideally, as someone else said, try to get both, but prioritize Ice Bolt.
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Well, I find no real difficulty setting up a cone, especially if im running solo, but I can see your point for your Global Recharge Fire/Kin Corr.|
Originally Posted by macskull
You're going to get more mileage out of a fast-animating and fast-recharging single-target attack than you will out of a slow-animating cone (not even a TAoE, just a cone, which means extra time spent positioning to make it useful). Just about the only time I'd take Frost Breath over Ice Bolt is if I had lots of global recharge.
For example, I skipped Flares on my Fire/Kin Corruptor, and use Fireball instead. I've got the global recharge to back it up (set bonuses + Hasten + 2-3 stacked Siphon Speed), and it's TAoE instead of a cone so I can fire it off when I'm in the middle of a mob after hitting Fulcrum Shift and not have to worry about not getting optimal use out of it. Ideally, as someone else said, try to get both, but prioritize Ice Bolt. |
I have little difficulty nailing 5-12 Things using Frost Breath on my Cold/Ice Defender, depends if in on a team or not, and I use it regularly.So I may be more used to lining it up then most would be just comming into the set.
Ice Bolt is definatly a Staple, I cant argue with that, faster animation, and longer range, but its still a ST attack.After you figure out how to use Frost Breaths Cone, itll fight right up there and add alot more AoE damage then just using Ice Storm by its self in earlier levels.
My biggest thing is even with Slow Animation, its no worse then Fire Breath, which many people take when using a Fire Blasts set.Just doesnt have secondary damage like FB is all.
Iv bcome acustomed to using Frost Breath on my Defender, thats only lvl 28 right now (havnt been playing it for a while), and nailing a 8 man mob solo with Sleet, knocking them Down, hitting Aim, Ice Storm, then Frost Breath.Most the mob get obliterated from that combo because Frost Breath does 2 ticks of 65 making 130 damage to the whole most (Most of the time I hit everything in that cone) the mob.
50% damage boost and -30% damage resistance and constantly hitting the Mob with KD due to Sleet makes the slow animation from Frost breath a none issue.
Like I said, it has its place.
which is a better choice, ice bolt or frost breath?