New Positron TF I (Rule of Three) on a Shield tanker?
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Dechs Kaison,
Posted on: 2010-06-30 13:52 in Tankers
*Struggles to think what's hard about it* What setting were you on and was this a lowbie Shield on Poo Enhancements?
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Yes, I have done it, but I've only run that TF once. Was there any specific concern you had about the final mission? The doppelganger battle or the series of ambushes outside City Hall?
Ambushes probably then. If it's hard then take out groups near the group at the doors. Then take out the group by the doors, take out groups that ambush, don't allow anyone in. Only Tank goes in, aggroes and comes back out, some CoT could come out with tank, team does them, rinse repeat until there is not enough immediately inside that might overwhelm the team. Go inside, take out whats left. Do doppelgangers in a sensible order.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
Mostly, I am curious about the situation where even three level 50 IOs in your mez protection clicky are not enough to make it permament, unless you also have a fair amount of recharge from purple sets or bonuses still active at the exemp level. Can a shield tanker successfully tank this TF without an outside mez protection power or constantly having to monitor the state of that power?
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That's not your only concern. On a large team you'll have enough mezzers that they have a decent chance to break through your protection completely.
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You've got 20 inspiration slots. Put breakfrees in a few of them. That'll cover you in the rare case that a mez gets through your defenses during the 12 seconds that your mez protection is down. Once you've done that, remember to target the Ruin Mages first, and you'll be fine.
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Originally Posted by Heraclea
Mostly, I am curious about the situation where even three level 50 IOs in your mez protection clicky are not enough to make it permament, unless you also have a fair amount of recharge from purple sets or bonuses still active at the exemp level. Can a shield tanker successfully tank this TF without an outside mez protection power or constantly having to monitor the state of that power?
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I've come to the conclusion that a second build with the click mez protections well overslotted is a good idea for the shielder/SR that wants to exemp low.
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All my builds are exemplarable. I don't think there is any good reason why they can't be. I had a number of people state that they would get by when talking about under rechging it and exemplared. I got haste and rechg for those levels but I think it takes 3 lvl 15 IOs to perma that power at 12 so getting it to perma is not hard but not ideal (ideal is on SOs). I think its possible bosses may of stacked effects on the tanker. Ambushes can lead to alot of minions dying and bosses hanging about.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
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My rad/sonic tanked this TF. Bring a few breakfrees for the one or two times you get mezzed with your protection off. Your shield tank will do just fine.
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Originally Posted by Heraclea
Mostly, I am curious about the situation where even three level 50 IOs in your mez protection clicky are not enough to make it permament, unless you also have a fair amount of recharge from purple sets or bonuses still active at the exemp level. Can a shield tanker successfully tank this TF without an outside mez protection power or constantly having to monitor the state of that power?
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I have definitely learned that the closer you are to the minimum team size needed to start the task force, the better off you will be in the end. Then again, this was true of Old Positron as well.
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Minimum team option is a bit naff compared to the full team option. I'd sooner 8 people anyday. All problems have a solution that doesnt require cutting people out of a chance to do or see a TF.
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Originally Posted by Heraclea
I have definitely learned that the closer you are to the minimum team size needed to start the task force, the better off you will be in the end. Then again, this was true of Old Positron as well.
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Not sure what "naff" means, but I have had much better experiences with 3-5 man teams than 6-8 mans teams. Less debuffs getting thrown around, fewer annoying bosses like Ruin mages, etc. That stuff really adds up in early levels. Sure, you can get it done with a larger team, but the smaller teams have always been faster and smoother for me. If you have 8 people that want to run it at once, do two separate runs and make it a race. Fun for all!|
Originally Posted by New Dawn
Minimum team option is a bit naff compared to the full team option. I'd sooner 8 people anyday. All problems have a solution that doesnt require cutting people out of a chance to do or see a TF.
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I've also found that "moar damage" and a Controller or two helps a lot with this TF. A good controller can neutralize the annoying bosses or debuffers, making each mob more easy for the entire team. This is always the case, of course, but I really notice the difference on this team. Lots of Blaster damage also makes the mobs melt fast before they can make life too difficult for you.
Hera, you can possibly make do with not setting your mez to auto if it's not perma. That way you're firing it off when you'll be fighting (and you can let your team know to wait and it's recharging), or just use a breakfree to bridge the gap and when you need it. One nice thing about Shields is at least you can dodge some of the mez.
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No, you only have 20 inspiration slots if you're level 40+. If you're in range of the Posi TF, you'll only have 10 slots and 15 if you're between 25 and 39.
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Originally Posted by Katie V
You've got 20 inspiration slots. Put breakfrees in a few of them. That'll cover you in the rare case that a mez gets through your defenses during the 12 seconds that your mez protection is down. Once you've done that, remember to target the Ruin Mages first, and you'll be fine.
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Originally Posted by Heraclea
Mostly, I am curious about the situation where even three level 50 IOs in your mez protection clicky are not enough to make it permament, unless you also have a fair amount of recharge from purple sets or bonuses still active at the exemp level. Can a shield tanker successfully tank this TF without an outside mez protection power or constantly having to monitor the state of that power?
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If you've only got 10 slots, you don't have level 50 recharge IOs in your Mez clicky.
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Originally Posted by Godpants
No, you only have 20 inspiration slots if you're level 40+. If you're in range of the Posi TF, you'll only have 10 slots and 15 if you're between 25 and 39.
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Has anyone ever even tried to tank a New Positron I on a shield tanker?
If so, were you able to successfully complete the final mission?
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